Rambo - Peptide and SARM Q&A

[RamboStallone]

Gw501516
Do I need to cycle GW ? if so how often do I need to come off and for how long ?

Thanks

No cycling required with GW brother.

 

[biggc1]

I get a huge itchy swollen area when I sub q cjc1295. Is this common

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[RamboStallone]

I get a huge itchy swollen area when I sub q cjc1295. Is this common

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Dac right? Yes it is, shoot it IM in delts. It's hit or miss with me personally whether that happens or not. It'll be the same dac and one shot irritation and next shot nothing lol.

 

[SoonerClint72]

I've been discussing some peptides with RS recently, and saw this QandA...thought others may be interested. I'm considering a run in addition to my trt dosage of cyp. Im considering ipam with cjc 1295. I am wanting to lean up and drop some bodyfat before june. As a driver for UPS its hell in the summer! Id like to lighten up a bit. RS could you chime in a little with your thoughts brother? Appreciate it sir!

Sooner

 

[RamboStallone]

I've been discussing some peptides with RS recently, and saw this QandA...thought others may be interested. I'm considering a run in addition to my trt dosage of cyp. Im considering ipam with cjc 1295. I am wanting to lean up and drop some bodyfat before june. As a driver for UPS its hell in the summer! Id like to lighten up a bit. RS could you chime in a little with your thoughts brother? Appreciate it sir!

Sooner

As we discussed but I'll repeat here for everyone to see and add more to it. Now ipam is the cleanest ghrp but it is also the weakest. As far as the ghrh, you can use dac or no dac, really not much of a difference other then half life.

My go to stack is usually,

Hex at 100-200mcgs with either 150mcgs of no dac or 300mcgs of dac. Dose this 2-3x a day. Then prebed, a large dose of ipam 500-1000mcgs with either 150mcgs of no dac or 300mcgs of dac. Now if you wanted to do the ipam alone, I would recommend 300-500mcgs ipam 3x a day with either 150mcgs of no dac or 300mcgs of dac.

With dac since there is a longer half life, dosing higher is beneficial. With no dac, above saturation which is around 150mcgs is not really necessary since it won't lead to much of an increase over saturation since it has a short half life.

 

[GurthQuake]

My question is about Ghrp 6...Research has found that the consumption of carbohydrates around the administration window of GH secretagogues significantly blunts the GH release....What is the window for Ghrp 6?

I’ve taken GHRP2 and six and what I’ve been told is the window is two hours before and one hour after pretty much all I do is drink black coffee and water and that’s when I work out at that time but it makes you extremely hungry which really sucks like it’s like you have not eaten in days and you really want to eat within that two and one hour window but you cannot or it will render the drug ineffective I actually got this from an actual doctor


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[Ivan_Drago]

Hey Rambo.. just read through the thread and it's very informative. Thanks for taking the time to contribute all of this.

Regarding blood testing, have you seen pre & post GH or IGF levels specific to individual GH releasing agents (particularly MK-677) and/or any 2 agents combined?

I ask because, as you recommend, I definitely plan on trying MK solo for my first go 'round. But I noticed a BB'er called Seth the Spartan who espouses his Bro Science on YouTube claiming that MK-677 stacked with Hex or CJC/dac produces GH plasma levels similar to 10(!!) units of "pharmaceutical grade" GH.

...thoughts?

 

[ranger134]

User feedback is always a good thing

Damn steve you really leaned out from your last profile picture. Was it just diet or add var to all your cycles? Whatever you doing it working

 

[ranger134]

Igf1-Lr3 is a great one. Or for added GH pulses I lile to add ghrp2 with modgrf 3x a day. Great thing about using the igf1, is it shuttles the water from the MK677 back into the muscles, this results in increased recovery and a fuller, leaner look. More water and food in the muscle means more growth overall so it's a win win situation.

Do you use igf lr3 PRe or post WO? I would use 60mcg bilateral shoulders post. Next day was vascular and fuller. I would only use omega IGF if you remember him. He been in the game long time particularly with IGF. He gave the advice on how he used it. Great dude. Someone said 95% of igf is fake. What you think and is there a way to tell or just bloodwork? Also he said only cycle for a month any longer your receptors get used to it. One more question does IGF work better alone or with gh or aas? Thanks buddy I also hit up quick fix keep my half dog flask in pocket oftool bag so hope I never need it but if I do I ready!!!!

 

[ranger134]

It's definitely elevated. Wasn't as tired at 80 either!

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Bro maybe you got sleep apnea. Before my clap I could blast a couple of lines and go to bed 5 minutes later. I literally fought staying awake every single day on way to work. I thought that was normal. I couldn't put any weight on because I never got any rem sleep so never really recovered just constantly tearing down .

 

[ranger134]

Here we go RAMBO....

Wife is looking to drop b/f and wants mainly the skin benefits of GH. I am interested also. She nor I can pin every few hours either and need items with big half lifes. In order of importance I guess what would your protocol be for her and I? I am thinking

MK-266 (her 12.5)
CJC-DAC (dosing?)
GHRP-6 (twice daily?) or go with GHRP-2 to stave off some of the hunger pains? Concerned about that especially with MK-677 already being supplemented.

Anything else helpful? AICAR? Sorry about all the q’s but lookin to have a peptide protocol outlined for us

Lastly, if you had to pick the best one to only add to MK which would it be?

Thx!

Have her use 1iu of hgh ED for 6 months. Should see difference by end of month 2. Plus just one pin AM.

 

[RamboStallone]

Hey Rambo.. just read through the thread and it's very informative. Thanks for taking the time to contribute all of this.

Regarding blood testing, have you seen pre & post GH or IGF levels specific to individual GH releasing agents (particularly MK-677) and/or any 2 agents combined?

I ask because, as you recommend, I definitely plan on trying MK solo for my first go 'round. But I noticed a BB'er called Seth the Spartan who espouses his Bro Science on YouTube claiming that MK-677 stacked with Hex or CJC/dac produces GH plasma levels similar to 10(!!) units of "pharmaceutical grade" GH.

...thoughts?

There has been cases of guys testing igf levels in the 400-600 range using MK-677 combined with other peptides such as CJC DAC but it was using some high doses. So from and igf level standpoint, yes it would take something like 6-8iu to provide similar levels. Of course this is soo individualistic and unique to each person that you can't compare unless it's the same person under same conditions. Instead of trying to compare this to that, my question always is WHAT IS THE GOAL? These are all tools in our arsenal. Not sure why people are soo hell bent on comparing stuff. Another consideration is how do you react to these compounds? Some may prefer certain ones because for them they simply respond better. In my experience, MK677 is stronger than GH. It's hard to compare but even a small dose of MK677 hits me hard with effects and side effects. Takes more HGH then a couple IU to give me similar sides. Low dose HGH is side free for me so I prefer it usually. However on a bulk MK677 is king stuff packs on size hard and fast. HGH is a much slower process. It all comes down in the end to goals and preferences based on one's response to said compound.

Thank you and hope that helps!

 

[Pipelinesteve4]

Damn steve you really leaned out from your last profile picture. Was it just diet or add var to all your cycles? Whatever you doing it working

It's that HGH and some insane workouts that are strength training combined with crossfit. I'm 275 lbs in that picture. 6ft tall

 

[RamboStallone]

Do you use igf lr3 PRe or post WO? I would use 60mcg bilateral shoulders post. Next day was vascular and fuller. I would only use omega IGF if you remember him. He been in the game long time particularly with IGF. He gave the advice on how he used it. Great dude. Someone said 95% of igf is fake. What you think and is there a way to tell or just bloodwork? Also he said only cycle for a month any longer your receptors get used to it. One more question does IGF work better alone or with gh or aas? Thanks buddy I also hit up quick fix keep my half dog flask in pocket oftool bag so hope I never need it but if I do I ready!!!!

If I want the added pumps I do it preworkout, if the pumps are too much I switch it to postworkout. There are many ways to use Lr3. I've done it a bunch of ways and in the end results were still pretty similar. For bulking, I do it in the morning and pound food all day. For best recovery, around workout time, pre or post doesn't really matter. For fat loss, prebed combined with IM fasting next morning.

Most of what I have used seemed real. I don't buy into all this BS about not being able to synthesize it, etc. Because I have tried plenty research Lr3 and it worked! I do limit use to short periods or have breaks between dosing (only dosing training days for instance) because I do feel there is a desensitization pretty quickly. I think most take too much too fast so they desensitize quickly to it and seem to think it's fake. With all peptides, my experience has been when used CORRECTLY they worked and those who used them INCORRECTLY seemed to scream bunk, fake, or scam lol.

Another way to use it is use something like 100mcgs daily before a showing to polish off the physique. For instance, I would take it 3-4days prior to going on vacation.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Hey RS,

I am currently running low dose GH along with some BPC-157 while I'm recovery from surgery on my left foot. Is it a bad idea to mix my GH and peptide in the same slin pin or play it safe and inject separately?.....thanks my friend.

 

[Icedawg]

Hey RS,

I am currently running low dose GH along with some BPC-157 while I'm recovery from surgery on my left foot. Is it a bad idea to mix my GH and peptide in the same slin pin or play it safe and inject separately?.....thanks my friend.

Good question. I did separately. Ideally your suppose to pin near the injury with bpc157... I'd also like to know the answer to this

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[01dragonslayer]

Good question. I did separately. Ideally your suppose to pin near the injury with bpc157... I'd also like to know the answer to this

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I'm not sure so I have been playin' it safe and injecting separately.

 

[Ivan_Drago]

Rambo posted this reply to the same question in this very thread almost 2 years ago ...

"Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 enhances the growth hormone receptor expression in tendon fibroblasts".

BPC 157, a pentadecapeptide derived from human gastric juice, has been demonstrated to promote the healing of different tissues, including skin, muscle, bone, ligament and tendon in many animal studies. However, the underlying mechanism has not been fully clarified. The present study aimed to explore the effect of BPC 157 on tendon fibroblasts isolated from Achilles tendon of male Sprague-Dawley rat. From the result of cDNA microarray analysis, growth hormone receptor was revealed as one of the most abundantly up-regulated genes in tendon fibroblasts by BPC 157. BPC 157 dose- and time-dependently increased the expression of growth hormone receptor in tendon fibroblasts at both the mRNA and protein levels as measured by RT/real-time PCR and Western blot, respectively. The addition of growth hormone to BPC 157-treated tendon fibroblasts dose- and time-dependently increased the cell proliferation as determined by MTT assay and PCNA expression by RT/real-time PCR. Janus kinase 2, the downstream signal pathway of growth hormone receptor, was activated time-dependently by stimulating the BPC 157-treated tendon fibroblasts with growth hormone. In conclusion, the BPC 157-induced increase of growth hormone receptor in tendon fibroblasts may potentiate the proliferation-promoting effect of growth hormone and contribute to the healing of tendon.

 

[Icedawg]

It shouldn't matter injecting subq since it works systematically...?

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[RamboStallone]

Hey RS,

I am currently running low dose GH along with some BPC-157 while I'm recovery from surgery on my left foot. Is it a bad idea to mix my GH and peptide in the same slin pin or play it safe and inject separately?.....thanks my friend.

I've combined peptides, gh, slin before and did not notice any negative effects to doing so. I would think you should be fine doing it that way.