Fucking Tired of this

[BobbySweeney]

So my friend of 31 years, who was not a bodybuilder and used no drugs outside of AAS and HGH, died this morning at 66.

He had a heart attack.
He was literally on a treadmill last week, in great shape. Didn’t carry extra weight, ate healthy.

We are fucking killing ourselves and not taking the right supplements or protection. Everyday we get on here and a brother dies at 50 or 60 years of age.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Very sorry to hear my friend. 31 years as friends is a long time and for me to say that I'm sorry could not possibly comfort you enough for your loss. Prayers go out to your friends family and for as well. I am coping will be hard....you know you can always come here for support.

 

[Kins]

Every time I read about something like this I think twice about AAS...However I do visit my doctor a lot to make sure everything is "running" ok and I do get regular blood work. Very sorry for you loss.

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Sorry for your loss. Do you know if he got routine blood work? And other health scans?
Friend had a triple bypass recently (same age as your buddy who recently passed), never smoked, never did anabolics, never did rec drugs. Church going, nerdy guy.
He did Powerlift his whole life, never did cardio. His blood work was always on point, except for real low cholesterol. (Too low is dangerous, has protective qualities).
35 years of high stress in his job. Always very worrisome about things. Anyways, just had the blockage and no other damage, but if he decided to go home and nap, he'd be dead.

I'm going for a cardiac calcium scan, only 100.00 these days, shows actual inflammation (if any), sometimes blood-work doesnt tell the story, need to see inside.
Also, a huge fan of low doses when using gear.

Best to you, and your friends family, RIP...

 

[El Hereje]

I’ve had a number of acquaintances who died young that were not on gear. That being said, I am under no illusion that all this gear is going to lengthen my days. It’s very sad when this happens.

 

[BobbySweeney]

I just spent $120 on heart and blood pressure supps on Amazon.

I’m having trouble processing this. This guy was a TRT user. Not an abuser. He was the pinnacle of health.
He didn’t deserve this.

None of you, or your families, deserve this.


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[Blacktail]

So sorry to hear about your friend.

 

[BobbySweeney]

Sorry for your loss. Do you know if he got routine blood work? And other health scans?
Friend had a triple bypass recently (same age as your buddy who recently passed), never smoked, never did anabolics, never did rec drugs. Church going, nerdy guy.
He did Powerlift his whole life, never did cardio. His blood work was always on point, except for real low cholesterol. (Too low is dangerous, has protective qualities).
35 years of high stress in his job. Always very worrisome about things. Anyways, just had the blockage and no other damage, but if he decided to go home and nap, he'd be dead.

I'm going for a cardiac calcium scan, only 100.00 these days, shows actual inflammation (if any), sometimes blood-work doesnt tell the story, need to see inside.
Also, a huge fan of low doses when using gear.

Best to you, and your friends family, RIP...

What all would you recommend bloodwork and checkup wise to see what state your cardiovascular system are in?

 

[Icedawg]

Sorry for your lost brother. I'm going through something very similar myself. Best friend for 30 years.... I feel your pain. ugh

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[Muscle mechanic]

Sorry for loss!! Dam, my wife pissed me off today and thought I was gonna have heart attack a bit. Stress and let it get to me, blood was boiling.....chest pains and calmed down after
Tren i guess in affect lately. Getting more CBD and L-theanine to help me chill. As u see I am not sleeping yet...

Stress a killer!! Cut stress we all need too!!

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[Rot-Iron66]

What all would you recommend bloodwork and checkup wise to see what state your cardiovascular system are in?

I recommend just a full blood panel (shows all blood and heart markers (and liver, kidney, etc) and that coronary calcium scan I mentioned. It takes 5 mins, and shows inside the heart and arteries.
(Only $100.00 around here as most insurance wont cover it (the crooked pricks).

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/heart-scan/about/pac-20384686

 

[BobbySweeney]

Does the full panel show cholesterol?


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[303055622lr]

Does the full panel show cholesterol?


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Ya

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[Big Joe]

Good morning brother's I'd like to share my most recent experience I'm 53 going on 54 long time wieght thrower cycled on and off in my 20-30 stopped for many yrs also didn't hit the gym for about 10 yrs until 12 yrs ago I started back up been complaining to my dr about fatigue for many yrs so they sent me for sleep study, then my test levels were low put me on trt well fast forward they never bothered to ck my heart so this winter I was having trouble breathing in the gym went in to dr upper respiratory infection 14 days antibiotics.. still had same issue called asked to get my heart checked they did ekg found part my heart was not pumping anyway here I am 4 weeks post op triple bipass.. so get ur calcium levels checked fyi my pressure and all my levels were spot on this came out of no were..

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[BobbySweeney]

Good morning brother's I'd like to share my most recent experience I'm 53 going on 54 long time wieght thrower cycled on and off in my 20-30 stopped for many yrs also didn't hit the gym for about 10 yrs until 12 yrs ago I started back up been complaining to my dr about fatigue for many yrs so they sent me for sleep study, then my test levels were low put me on trt well fast forward they never bothered to ck my heart so this winter I was having trouble breathing in the gym went in to dr upper respiratory infection 14 days antibiotics.. still had same issue called asked to get my heart checked they did ekg found part my heart was not pumping anyway here I am 4 weeks post op triple bipass.. so get ur calcium levels checked fyi my pressure and all my levels were spot on this came out of no were..

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Thank you for sharing. This community needs more stories and wake up calls like this.

Im not remotely advocating stopping steroids; because we know we aren’t going to.
But we aren’t supplementing right, we aren’t getting checkups or the right type of checkups regularly, and most of us sure as shit aren’t doing cardio.
And by the way, cardio is one of the only things I’ve found listed that showed it helped balance out heart thickening while on AAS. So cardio is important, but you don’t want to die while doing it.

 

[Big Joe]

The most important thing to remember you know your body if something doesn't feel right stop and get checked dont be a tough guy as we get older things change in our bodies .. I ate the right things did cardio spent hrs in the gym thinking I was the perfect picture of health but inside was a different story ..it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life on top that 3 months so far no wieghts and another 2 before I can so all my gains are gone and at 53 it's not easy getting it back.. but I go every day and do 20 min elipticle and 40 min treadmill until I can start wieght training again..

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[Donkeykong]

So glad to hear your ok bro. I'm surprised they did not check and you had to ask. I'm very glad you were smart enough to do this as obviously much more time would not of been good. Thank God your still here bro and well I do not know you I wish you the best!!!

Good morning brother's I'd like to share my most recent experience I'm 53 going on 54 long time wieght thrower cycled on and off in my 20-30 stopped for many yrs also didn't hit the gym for about 10 yrs until 12 yrs ago I started back up been complaining to my dr about fatigue for many yrs so they sent me for sleep study, then my test levels were low put me on trt well fast forward they never bothered to ck my heart so this winter I was having trouble breathing in the gym went in to dr upper respiratory infection 14 days antibiotics.. still had same issue called asked to get my heart checked they did ekg found part my heart was not pumping anyway here I am 4 weeks post op triple bipass.. so get ur calcium levels checked fyi my pressure and all my levels were spot on this came out of no were..

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[Donkeykong]

So my friend of 31 years, who was not a bodybuilder and used no drugs outside of AAS and HGH, died this morning at 66.

He had a heart attack.
He was literally on a treadmill last week, in great shape. Didn’t carry extra weight, ate healthy.

We are fucking killing ourselves and not taking the right supplements or protection. Everyday we get on here and a brother dies at 50 or 60 years of age.

I am sorry for your loss. You are right. It doesn't matter the age or number of cycles etc we should all be getting checked frequently and being open with our doctors and if they are not working with you to help find a new doctor asap... This post and seeing more of these lately has me thinking alot more...

 

[Big Joe]

So glad to hear your ok bro. I'm surprised they did not check and you had to ask. I'm very glad you were smart enough to do this as obviously much more time would not of been good. Thank God your still here bro and well I do not know you I wish you the best!!!

Thank u brother unfortunately what happens is they see the shape we are in and cant imagine that our heart would be the problem because even the cardiologist said what are you doing here.. it sucks but I got a 2nd chance and more time with my wife and daughter..

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[Kins]

I have had at least 4 or 5 EKGs in the past few years and twice I had a cardiac stress test. That along with a ton of blood work. Hope that's ok but when I read these stories online and these things happen in life it seems to come on so suddenly.