Turinabol or Winny

The whole deca and winny thing never worked for me. Still had joint pain and counter productive. This isn't he said she said, that's real life experience
 
The whole deca and winny thing never worked for me. Still had joint pain and counter productive. This isn't he said she said, that's real life experience

Never tried it but I'd guess you'd have to have the right ratios of each. No clue what that would be though. Just a guess though I'm not claiming I know. I bet someone else reading this could really help you out though.
 
The whole deca and winny thing never worked for me. Still had joint pain and counter productive. This isn't he said she said, that's real life experience

Well it's not magic, if you have real fucked up joints and the cartilage is played out and your tendons are wrought, nandrolone isn't gonna do the trick.

I have a reconstructed left knee, all ligaments/cartilage and soft tissue are fucked... The npp HELPS, but it doesn't prevent fluid build up, lack of mobility, etc.
 
At 20-30mg a day, I got pretty much no sides from Tbol but I did gain size. When I upped it to 50mg a day, Tbol really started to shine. I literally got Dbol-like results from it, without the Dbol sides. I hit 220 pounds on that cycle for the first time in my life. At 50mg a day though, I did get some indigestion and some emotional side effects.

I had a lot of negative side effects from running Winstrol. I dried me out to the point that even my sciatic nerve hurt and became inflamed. It also aggravated the tendon injuries I had in my forearms, due to drying out from it. Gyno is possible on Winstrol but I personally never experienced gyno symptoms from Winny. I have seen other people experience hair loss from Winstrol. And when I got blood work, Winstrol had messed up my good and bad cholesterol levels pretty bad, and it took about 6 months to get it back under control.

This is why I would recommend Tbol over Winstrol, any day.
 
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Last time I tried tbol, i got decent fullness but bad lethargy on just 20mg pre workout.

This could have been due to me being on cycle for close to 2 years without bothering to do a liver detox...

I plan on trying tbol again, maybe this summer with primo.

How is the strength increase on tbol? Does it improve CNS stim? Are gains keepable or mainly just intracellular water weight?
 
Last time I tried tbol, i got decent fullness but bad lethargy on just 20mg pre workout.

This could have been due to me being on cycle for close to 2 years without bothering to do a liver detox...

I plan on trying tbol again, maybe this summer with primo.

How is the strength increase on tbol? Does it improve CNS stim? Are gains keepable or mainly just intracellular water weight?

This is actually an interesting question. I also saw extreme fullness on Tbol but no lethargy whatsoever, so maybe the lethargy was due to your unique circumstances when you took it. I remember, one of the first things I noticed on that cycle is I just started feeling huge. My shirts got tighter. My lats seemed to be pushing my arms out more, making me feel bigger and wider and giving me that “presence”, if you know what I mean.

My strength went through the roof, but I was also on a bunch of other stuff, so I don’t know what Tbol by itself would do to you.

I would say that particular cycle I was on was one of the strongest ever on several levels, and CNS stimulation is one of them. I felt an intensity, and a primal-like aggressiveness that I have only ever gotten from Tren use, but this Tbol combo gave it to me even more.

Some of the gains were keep able. Aesthetically, I looked pretty awesome after that cycle, but I did also gain a lot of intracellular water weight. As soon as I discontinued use of the orals, I lost about 8 pounds and some of that extreme fullness. But what I was left with was probably the best version of myself that I have ever achieved, physically, so I have no complaints.

Hope that helps and answers your questions.
 
This is actually an interesting question. I also saw extreme fullness on Tbol but no lethargy whatsoever, so maybe the lethargy was due to your unique circumstances when you took it. I remember, one of the first things I noticed on that cycle is I just started feeling huge. My shirts got tighter. My lats seemed to be pushing my arms out more, making me feel bigger and wider and giving me that “presence”, if you know what I mean.

My strength went through the roof, but I was also on a bunch of other stuff, so I don’t know what Tbol by itself would do to you.

I would say that particular cycle I was on was one of the strongest ever on several levels, and CNS stimulation is one of them. I felt an intensity, and a primal-like aggressiveness that I have only ever gotten from Tren use, but this Tbol combo gave it to me even more.

Some of the gains were keep able. Aesthetically, I looked pretty awesome after that cycle, but I did also gain a lot of intracellular water weight. As soon as I discontinued use of the orals, I lost about 8 pounds and some of that extreme fullness. But what I was left with was probably the best version of myself that I have ever achieved, physically, so I have no complaints.

Hope that helps and answers your questions.

Hey bro, I really appreciate your thorough, detailed posts- I can't stand vague reviews or accounts of shit, makes it hard to understand.

Answered everything perfectly. I think ANY oral sans winny is gonna give you IC water weight that you can expect to see disappear once you stop- its impossible to look as good as you did on cycle rather than off.

AAS that give me CNS stimulation seem to give me explosive strength/power than the ones that just sheer size on, and for me especially, there is a direct correlation between lifting more weight and building more muscle.
 
Go with tbol you will enjoy it. It’s my favorite oral. I know my boy sura likes it too. Messes up my lipids but that’s no different than any other oral. I like that it’s a dry compound. If I get into wet compounds my skin explodes.

Yes sir I absolutely love Tbol! It gives me stupid pumps, decent strength gains and a few lbs of lean muscle. Another good thing is you can run it for extended periods cuz it’s not as liver toxic. I’ve never felt lethargic on it. Just a good overall feeling. I even stack mine with Drol and lemme tell ya “whoa”!
 
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