TRT and pregnancy

[Tinyuniverse31]

So I have read endless amounts of stuff that basically all contradicts itself and things to show both sides that you can get pregnant while on trt and also that you will be at 0 sperm production. Just curious about you guys actual experiences. I cruise at 250mg a week. Right now I am doing 500mg a week with 600 tren and will be cutting oils soon. I stay on and off hcg year round at 250iu every 3 or 4 days. Have a bunch of hcg coming soon and was just curious if I should just keep up the hcg or cut the oils and come off completely and increase hcg and maybe add clomid?

 

[Kins]

I'm guessing it depends on how much you use. 250mg isn't anywhere near normal "TRT" dosages. If you are trying I'd just continue and if you have trouble cut down the dosages significantly. Not scientific or anything but I've read about a lot of guys on heavy cycles getting their wives or girlfriends preggers.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

I'm guessing it depends on how much you use. 250mg isn't anywhere near normal "TRT" dosages. If you are trying I'd just continue and if you have trouble cut down the dosages significantly. Not scientific or anything but I've read about a lot of guys on heavy cycles getting their wives or girlfriends preggers.

I actually had a vitality clinic put me on 250mg a week to get me where I needed to be. split into 2 injects a week with the hcg. After a year or so I left and went out on my own but this is where I got the protocol from. Actually started on the gels and ended up there. I have heard of endos putting people closer to 100 mg a week or 250mg every 2 or 3 weeks or something. But 250mg a week is actually pretty common

 

[Kins]

I actually had a vitality clinic put me on 250mg a week to get me where I needed to be. split into 2 injects a week with the hcg. After a year or so I left and went out on my own but this is where I got the protocol from. Actually started on the gels and ended up there. I have heard of endos putting people closer to 100 mg a week or 250mg every 2 or 3 weeks or something. But 250mg a week is actually pretty common

It's only common for the Drug Dealers(Aka TRT clinics). They'll put you on anything you want at any dosage, as long as you pay they don't really give a crap. No insurance company is ever gonna cover you for 250mg of testosterone per week.

 

[Roc]

When I blast hcg I do 1500 every 3-4 days for 3 weeks with an intense liver detox, I clean out yearly to bring liver values back and to free fatty tissue from the liver, it's a must if you love orals like myself.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

It's only common for the Drug Dealers(Aka TRT clinics). They'll put you on anything you want at any dosage, as long as you pay they don't really give a crap. No insurance company is ever gonna cover you for 250mg of testosterone per week.

I actually got a script for that and my insurance did cover me for that. They wouldn't cover me for the hcg which I did buy in house. I would have kept going to them bc I was getting test for $12 a bottle but hcg was around $80. Then it was about $200 every 6 months for labs and what not. I understand what you're saying a lot of vitality clinics are like that but there are some good ones with specialists who know what they're doing and believe it or not if you need a higher dose insurance will actually cover it. Insurance will not cover anti e or hcg though because that is not really fda regulated for men from my understanding. They wouldn't even cover me for Clomid before I got on test. Reguardless, my question was merely for pregnancy and people's experiences on this board with this issue not about what a common dose of trt is.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

And please don't take that wrong I am probably coming off as a sick and I'm not trying to you did answer my question originally. I was the one arguing and my point was all of that isn't really important lol

 

[Kins]

I actually got a script for that and my insurance did cover me for that. They wouldn't cover me for the hcg which I did buy in house. I would have kept going to them bc I was getting test for $12 a bottle but hcg was around $80. Then it was about $200 every 6 months for labs and what not. I understand what you're saying a lot of vitality clinics are like that but there are some good ones with specialists who know what they're doing and believe it or not if you need a higher dose insurance will actually cover it. Insurance will not cover anti e or hcg though because that is not really fda regulated for men from my understanding. They wouldn't even cover me for Clomid before I got on test. Reguardless, my question was merely for pregnancy and people's experiences on this board with this issue not about what a common dose of trt is.

Alright then, looks like you lucked out. Surprised because I've not ever heard of insurance companies who are willing to pay up for things like this. That and especially because most people insurance premiums are freaking sky high now because of the whole Obamacare thing. I still think you and your wife or girlfriend should try and just see how thing go. Like I said before though I've heard of a lot of guys on really heavy cycles getting their girlfriends/wives pregnant. Other guys have said they have had to go off completely.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

I made an appointment to get a semen analysis and see where I'm at but I guess there's really no way to know till we do that. A friend of my wives is an endo and he told her if I was on trt I would have 0 sperm and now she wants me to come off and it's been years so I know that will be absolutely horrible but I guess in the long run if I have to it will be worth it. Just wanted to get some positive feedback that trt doesn't make you infertile lol

 

[Kins]

I made an appointment to get a semen analysis and see where I'm at but I guess there's really no way to know till we do that. A friend of my wives is an endo and he told her if I was on trt I would have 0 sperm and now she wants me to come off and it's been years so I know that will be absolutely horrible but I guess in the long run if I have to it will be worth it. Just wanted to get some positive feedback that trt doesn't make you infertile lol

I guess you will find out after jerking it into a cup. Post up when you get the results. I really don't think it makes you infertile.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

Bahahaha... That's what I told my wife... Especially because I run hcg along with it. My doc always said if I was fertile when I started then I should stay fertile but I've read a lot of other shit that says different. I guess just trying to get a piece of mind because she made me feel guilty. I'll keep you guys posted I think I made an appointment for the 1st of feb. I told her I would come off but I have 3 shows in April so it will have to wait till May lol
And the HCU contest right now lol

 

[Kins]

Still though calling 250mg a week of Test, "TRT" is laughable. No offense meant, just call it "Blast and cruise" and I'd be alright with that.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

I did say I cruise at 250... But at the same I had a doc prescribe that to me as a trt... So... I suppose bc that script ran out and I can't get it from a pharmacy anymore it is now 100% a blast and cruise but, if you do some reading you will see I am not the only guy who has been prescribed 250 a week. It really is pretty common. I have friends who cruise at 500 lol. I wouldn't call that a blast and blast haha

 

[Kins]

I did say I cruise at 250... But at the same I had a doc prescribe that to me as a trt... So... I suppose bc that script ran out and I can't get it from a pharmacy anymore it is now 100% a blast and cruise but, if you do some reading you will see I am not the only guy who has been prescribed 250 a week. It really is pretty common. I have friends who cruise at 500 lol. I wouldn't call that a blast and blast haha

I'm sure it's possible but not by a normal doctor, like and endocrinologist or urologist. It's something that happens at the "TRT clinics". They are just there to make money though, my opinion. A normal doctor is just going to get you into range, and anything over mid-range is considered too high. They are going to "replace" the testosterone that you don't produce, they won't give you so much you are at supraphysiological levels of testosterone. Real docs aren't gonna do that for you, they are concerned about other health effects of having that high testosterone levels for life. Whereas a "TRT" clinic doc could care less about that and will give you as much as you want as long as you pay up.

 

[Ricnixon]

So this is something I pretty knowledgeable about. Been through this bro. So my background was heavy aas use in my 20s. Never came off since 22 if I remember correctly. 35 now. Was on trt in the early 2000s from those shady docs in Florida that got busted and wrapped in the baseball shit. Anyway, now I have an endo and am on trt..... but like most of us we all supplement with a little something extra. I have insurance covering everything. And during fertility they covered my hcg and sent it to my house.

So this is my experience and we are all different. When I'm on test. No matter the dose my sperm is pretty much at 0. I've had a bunch of sperm tests and even my sperm DNA tested from a lab in north or South Dakota. Crazy. Anyway I'll get to the point..... I got off everything and took hcg in small doses daily with arimidex also prescribe but insurance didn't cover that so I ordered from Canada.

After being off everything for 30 days and hcg daily I was pretty much back to normal count wise. But the motility/ mobility wasn't the best. Meaning they didn't swim all that great. Took about 90 days to really get quality sperm for me and during that time no aas, none.

However, still could get pregnant and ending up doing ivf. First try it worked.... got a beautiful little girl she is perfect. However, I couldn't get my wife pregnant ever naturally in 10 years together no protection no birth control. But I was on heavy with numerous compounds. It wasn't until we started trying that I got worried.

Either way it worked out. Overall the process took us 4 years and 4 different fertility docs. In the end we were determined to have unexplained infertility because we were both considered normal after I recovered 100%.

I know some dudes with potent sperm while of test..... I'm just not one of those people. Get a sperm test while on and see where your at. Then depending on how you do.... reassess. In the end My personal advice is to get off oils and test and start a pct/hcg and try to make it happen asap. Then you can jump back on when she is prego which was what I did.

Sorry for the long post I'm bored and on the elliptical. Fire away if you have questions

 

[Ricnixon]

Fuck it I'll keep going. So not completely necessary but if you have problems.......you need to check your lh and fsh levels. Hcg ramped my shit up. I looked into hmg which is apparently better for fertility but it was super expensive.....but anny one of the sponsors has it for a decent price. If I go round two I may try it.

 

[Tinyuniverse31]

Yea I was told run hcg while on and hmg when I wanna get pregnant and should have no issues. Our background is pretty similar as far as usage. I did the same when I was younger. 34 now and when I was around 29 or 30 my test levels came back just around 190 so I fucked myself over in my early 20's. Endo and urologist wouldn't help me at all said I was "too young" and shouldn't be having these issues so I was forced to go to vitality clinic which worked out well. Anyway my wife had been on birth control for like 12 years and were not sure if she is ovulating or if I am producing sperm. We have a lot of work to do. I was thinking about ivf but wanted to do it natural. I guess tests are the only real answer. Thank you for sharing your story with me bro.

 

[Bca21]

No one needs 250mg of testosterone to get normal test levels. It's a chemical compound that will get to your levels no matter who you are. I know your trying to justify it but in all reality, it's just simply not true. My 59 year non lifter ever dad is on 125mg of cyp every 7-9 days. So saying you need 250mg every 7 days to have the same levels as my dad is incorrect. I know I sound rude so I apologize in advance. I don't want to start arguing or bickering on this forum. But I want to see you blood work test levels at 250mg and see what they come bak at.