Tren e experience and help

[Romansrun]

Hey there bros....

So I am looking for experience good and bad with tren e and sides to watch for....

I have been on trt for 3 years and also cycled with deca, dbol, winny, and eg.... I know that good thought process is tren a however I got some bad gear about 9 months ago and it caused a leg infection and to boot I hit a blood vessel that caused a hematoma and was in hospital for 2 weeks..... so pinning 3x a week just isn't in the cards for me....

I am gonna run a low dose at 200 mg a week.... of all the sides I have read I am ok with all sides i have read except the high bp.... I am on bp meds as it is and have it already...... this is a concern with using tren for me....

Dbol seems to increase my BP but deca doesn't really nor did eq....

Any experience is welcome please and thank you

 

[Muscle mechanic]

My bp is ok and deca high on tren though.
I ran tren e for years until one day I got a case of irritable and everything the way I would get set off at the littlest things made me get out of breathe anxiety heart racing and so irritable I knew u needed to chill but everyday it was same shit.
Couldn't bare anything got to point I thought I was gonna have heart attack. Had to end up going home taking off 4 days of work and sit and ask wife to help me stay calm till the enathate ester got weak enough. Wasn't using high either around 400 but had back down another time to around 200 and after about 5 weeks same shit.

Now I just use the acetate

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[Romansrun]

Very good to know.... that also scares me... I like the benefits but am scared of the costs.... how was ur bp on tren

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Very good to know.... that also scares me... I like the benefits but am scared of the costs.... how was ur bp on tren

That time the bad one. Would've dared check would've freaked me out more.
In tren a it goes from 140 top # to 150
At most.
With cialis it helps though. Last run didn't have any. I know a few other guys who had the scare with tren e that had ran for years and years. I know others it don't phase.
I am 40 now. Funny it almost seems like trt made me respond differently to tren and higher bp
If I lower my bf under 10% my bp gets good though all the time. But the time with tren e my bf was around 7%

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[The44]

Dude if you're so nervous about it you seriously might just want to stay away from it. Sides happen regardless of dosage if it's gonna happen and the physical sides are the least of your worries. Seriously bro, tren is a shit, or get off the pot type of compound. Only you can make the call.


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[Muscle mechanic]

Dude if you're so nervous about it you seriously might just want to stay away from it. Sides happen regardless of dosage if it's gonna happen and the physical sides are the least of your worries. Seriously bro, tren is a shit, or get off the pot type of compound. Only you can make the call.


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The44 said it right if u get nervous or worried or have stress in your life leave it alone.
If your life us good and stable and u are type to blow things off then all good.

I blame my wife for my bad experience and when I have high bp it's always because she knows how to poke at me. And tren when I take it, the way it makes me put up with nothing, she comes at me more like she is the one on it!!! Lol

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[superbee]

200 is a good low dose to start with if your worried about sides. The issue with E is once you get the sides your going to experience them for a while with the long ester blend.

I say go back to Tren A.. Can't go wrong with the sponsors on here, follow sterile injection procedures, or have someone do it for you.. Or you can be like my buddy who inj everything subQ .5ml at a time. There are some Youtube videos of TRT docs recommending it.

 

[hwntime]

I doubt you'd notice much sides at 200. It's around 400+ where trensomnia and the irritability start kicking in for me. I've always used higher test vs tren but I'm currently on low test (300) high tren (500) and the sides are much more manageable. I now believe the hype.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

The problem with tren is the type of CNS stimulation it does on some isn't tolerate able.
At any dose!!
So if u running the e even at 200 don't forget that it can build up to much higher than that after about 5 weeks!

Also I was one of those people who thought I knew about tren till it happened to me!!!

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[Romansrun]

Bros thanks for all the input and suggestions. ... I am not a stressful person and my BP certainly doesn't come from that... it is all heridatary.... I have never had roid rage or anything of the sort so that doesn't bother me at all and I have a good chill job..lol.... I like to hear personal experience and make my decisions. ...

I am gonna try it no matter what and base my opinion but I like to get as much input on new compound from people that have done it first. ..

I am brand new to this forum and without a doubt it is the best for em I have ever been on...

I appreciate all of yall and thank you for what u have told me

 

[Cajun897]

Bros thanks for all the input and suggestions. ... I am not a stressful person and my BP certainly doesn't come from that... it is all heridatary.... I have never had roid rage or anything of the sort so that doesn't bother me at all and I have a good chill job..lol.... I like to hear personal experience and make my decisions. ...

I am gonna try it no matter what and base my opinion but I like to get as much input on new compound from people that have done it first. ..

I am brand new to this forum and without a doubt it is the best for em I have ever been on...

I appreciate all of yall and thank you for what u have told me

Have fun lol

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[jymbo]

Tren works, you can even run 50mg Tren MWF with 50mg NPP and you won't grow tits and die. I've done it, it was great. 0 sides from deca other than stregth and joint lube and I'm shredded out from the tren, like rippley. I can feel it when I climb 12 flights of stairs but its not bad.

I hate this myth that unless you run 400+mg of tren it is a waste. It was designed (as hex) to be run at around 150mg a week. 100mg of tren, 250 of test C, 300mg of EQ and I'm hoping to add 300mg of Mast E or P a week. May up the tren to 150 Hex a week as its been nothing but a pleasant ride. I can feel the tren, its just not controlling me, its empowering me. I love it, best anti Depressant I've tried yet. I don't plan to stay on past summer, but I'm loving it.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Tren works, you can even run 50mg Tren MWF with 50mg NPP and you won't grow tits and die. I've done it, it was great. 0 sides from deca other than stregth and joint lube and I'm shredded out from the tren, like rippley. I can feel it when I climb 12 flights of stairs but its not bad.

I hate this myth that unless you run 400+mg of tren it is a waste. It was designed (as hex) to be run at around 150mg a week. 100mg of tren, 250 of test C, 300mg of EQ and I'm hoping to add 300mg of Mast E or P a week. May up the tren to 150 Hex a week as its been nothing but a pleasant ride. I can feel the tren, its just not controlling me, its empowering me. I love it, best anti Depressant I've tried yet. I don't plan to stay on past summer, but I'm loving it.

I agree brother. Tren is strong 3-5x stronger than testosterone anabolic and androgenic but it doesn't aromatase.
U gotta use high dose of tren or Nandrolone for around 8 weeks normally before prolactin can build up.
And controlling estro is important to prevent progesterone gyno.
Most guys treated in medical atmosphere for prolactinemia have had high estro to testosterone ratio and were giving some of the ssri's and other drugs that increase prolactin. Why this doesn't happen with every person on those meds. But most don't have an imbalanced estro to testosterone ratio.
The sides from tren they say are lower with low testosterone and higher tren.
This is only because of estro conversion from testosterone opening pathway for progestin and prolactin sides.
Also the CNS stimulation is supposed to be lowered by masteron this is don't yet know. Maybe dht backbone in mast fits into those receptors better than tren

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