The Laws of Trenbolone

[Kins]

I was thinking of trying EQ. Or maybe Bold cyp.

 

[The Beef]

Running a gram /week 400 bold Cyp (CBL's ) & 600RegEQ (Pro's )
How are ya Brother....? Good I hope..

MotorCity

Doing well my friend. Don't know why but whenever somebody mentions eq I think of you!!

 

[Kins]

[MENTION=968]MotorCityMuscleMachine[/MENTION] have you ever had any problems with Tren E like described in this thread?

 

[Kins]

Have never tried dhb... eq never did anything for me at all even at 1600 mg... keep in mind that it wasn't the d-line... I might give it a go... m1t was also shit... didn't like it at all


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I'm wondering why you brought up EQ though?

 

[spyderwebb]

I'm wondering why you brought up EQ though?

Cuz u said dhb


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[Kins]

Cuz u said dhb


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DHB=1 Test cyp.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

[MENTION=968]MotorCityMuscleMachine[/MENTION] have you ever had any problems with Tren E like described in this thread?

No, not really.., but then again I haven't ran a very long stint
At all with it, I've always had plenty in my stash, even still sitting in some 300mg/ml by Endocrine Supply, as well as.300mg Drost E (same Lab).

If memory serves me, I only ran 1 & 1/2 bottles Tren E 250mg/ml earlier in the year, but as usual since I've been back on nearly two year's come Feb, I've been "less" conservative with the dosages, "except" orals. { always keep orals short , like 5-6 weeks tops (Anavar longer )
But Drol, Dbol winny (winny is actually a dirty drug, for lack of better wording ) but I do like it in conjunction with Drol
Superior strength from the two, and winny is sort of a mild Progesterone combatant. (Antagonist ...? << proper ...? IDK )

I've always favored Tren Ace, or Hex. Tren Ace in a typical cut stack, or paired with Sust / or Omnadren << my very first cycle ( Omnas , & Pellet converted Tren ) Golden Goodness.., and probably as a first time user then, it really shined @ 75mg EOD , and usually no more than 500 Sust, or Omna's, , thru in Anadrol once and continued to bump it to 150mg/day as I wanted badly to get a 315 bench under my belt, only acheived 305, but strength went up "every single w/o "

And sorry for lengthiness , but to answer your question, in retrospect the only thing ever to give me anxiety (.Not a drug ) just regular stress, and at times confrontation with friend , or Family, (unnecessary confrontation ) and at one point maybe weed.., but more like paranoia.

Nowadays, I give a shit less of what others think, as I'm.so comfortable in my own skin, and reasonably accomplished, and at times cockey, but it's an "earned" thing.

Not to toot my own horn, but I've reared 3 kids well, have a decent set of credentials under my belt, ( always strived to be financially independent ) { not yet }, but "accomplished none-the-less }

You learn at some point to let things roll, or "don't sweat the small stuff"..!

Off on a tangent I know, and apologize..!

I think it's just that what I've ran Thru the years has done what it's supposed to, I'm once again having a blast with this [ gear, and Training ]..!

Only thing Tren (either ester ) has caused other than strength, / and/or cuts is the dreaded cough, at times like I
Was going to bowl over and die on the floor, or just deep harsh chest pain from the burn/cough, and only " harsh ". A few times. Most we're fine, and tolerable.

~ MCMM

 

[spyderwebb]

No, not really.., but then again I haven't ran a very long stint
At all with it, I've always had plenty in my stash, even still sitting in some 300mg/ml by Endocrine Supply, as well as.300mg Drost E (same Lab).

If memory serves me, I only ran 1 & 1/2 bottles Tren E 250mg/ml earlier in the year, but as usual since I've been back on nearly two year's come Feb, I've been "less" conservative with the dosages, "except" orals. { always keep orals short , like 5-6 weeks tops (Anavar longer )
But Drol, Dbol winny (winny is actually a dirty drug, for lack of better wording ) but I do like it in conjunction with Drol
Superior strength from the two, and winny is sort of a mild Progesterone combatant. (Antagonist ...? << proper ...? IDK )

I've always favored Tren Ace, or Hex. Tren Ace in a typical cut stack, or paired with Sust / or Omnadren << my very first cycle ( Omnas , & Pellet converted Tren ) Golden Goodness.., and probably as a first time user then, it really shined @ 75mg EOD , and usually no more than 500 Sust, or Omna's, , thru in Anadrol once and continued to bump it to 150mg/day as I wanted badly to get a 315 bench under my belt, only acheived 305, but strength went up "every single w/o "

And sorry for lengthiness , but to answer your question, in retrospect the only thing ever to give me anxiety (.Not a drug ) just regular stress, and at times confrontation with friend , or Family, (unnecessary confrontation ) and at one point maybe weed.., but more like paranoia.

Nowadays, I give a shit less of what others think, as I'm.so comfortable in my own skin, and reasonably accomplished, and at times cockey, but it's an "earned" thing.

Not to toot my own horn, but I've reared 3 kids well, have a decent set of credentials under my belt, ( always strived to be financially independent ) { not yet }, but "accomplished none-the-less }

You learn at some point to let things roll, or "don't sweat the small stuff"..!

Off on a tangent I know, and apologize..!

I think it's just that what I've ran Thru the years has done what it's supposed to, I'm once again having a blast with this [ gear, and Training ]..!

Only thing Tren (either ester ) has caused other than strength, / and/or cuts is the dreaded cough, at times like I
Was going to bowl over and die on the floor, or just deep harsh chest pain from the burn/cough, and only " harsh ". A few times. Most we're fine, and tolerable.

~ MCMM

Pellet tren was better I do agree the game has changed a lot... Chinese cristaline tren is a hit and miss... Ima get me some trest ace for my next run


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[Aesthetictech]

Yeah, well I know It was not the Mast E now. Not sure if Deca is associated with anxiety, but I doubt it. Have never read anything about it being associated with anxiety. I've read DECA is "side effect friendly". So it was more than likely the Tren or just my reaction to it in my mind because of reading so many horror stories, I just associated it with that....

hmmm personally i would end up trying another pin and seeing if i get the same effects. but thats just me, i would really like to pinpoint the culprit and adjust as necessary. you said you got a script for anxiety medication from the doc right? Cant hurt to give it another go and have the meds ready in case IMO

 

[Kins]

hmmm personally i would end up trying another pin and seeing if i get the same effects. but thats just me, i would really like to pinpoint the culprit and adjust as necessary. you said you got a script for anxiety medication from the doc right? Cant hurt to give it another go and have the meds ready in case IMO

Yes but only 30 caps of 25mg each with no refills. So it's not like I can take them 24/7. It's more of a "just in case it happens again" medication. Not preventative but to be taken if a panic attack happens again to stop it in it's tracks. If I want to look into getting something more permanent than I've got to make a follow up with my PCP.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Pellet tren was better I do agree the game has changed a lot... Chinese cristaline tren is a hit and miss... Ima get me some trest ace for my next run


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Trest was decent but watch the E sides. Catches up QUICK!!!! Daily pins sucked also. Tren at a 2-1 ration and Hydroxyzine is all I need to make it through the run.

 

[Kins]

Trest was decent but watch the E sides. Catches up QUICK!!!! Daily pins sucked also. Tren at a 2-1 ration and Hydroxyzine is all I need to make it through the run.

That's why I say Trest E for D-Red to get. Won't have to do daily pins. I think you could get away with EOD with ACE though. Trest E would be a lot easier though. I know a place that has it but they are international. So I'm betting they are a bit slow, but I know they are legit.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

That's why I say Trest E for D-Red to get. Won't have to do daily pins. I think you could get away with EOD with ACE though. Trest E would be a lot easier though. I know a place that has it but they are international. So I'm betting they are a bit slow, but I know they are legit.

I would try E but I heard its unstable as hell and Id hate to see the cost. I almost gave up on Tren E until I discovered hydroxyzine. It was a God send! That said.....If DRed had trest E id jump on it

 

[C587]

Does the process of injecting cause you anxiety?

When I first tried AAS in 2004 I'd pysch myself out and usually have to have a buddy do the shot for me. Kinda like sticking myself these days though lol...

 

[Kins]

Does the process of injecting cause you anxiety?

When I first tried AAS in 2004 I'd pysch myself out and usually have to have a buddy do the shot for me. Kinda like sticking myself these days though lol...

At first it did. Now I actually look forward to it a bit. Just don't like to poke myself more than a few days a week. Would like to give the sites a "rest" a few days out of the week.

 

[Dimsweetgains]

I've been planing this cycle...

1/2 ml Tren E 100 mg m,w,f (300mg/wk)
1/4 ml Test E 75mg m,w,f (225mg/wk)Yeah a tiny bit over what's recommended but good enough I think.
1/2 ml Deca 150mg m,f (300mg/wk)
1 ml Mast E 200mg m,w,f (600mg/wk)

Now I could lower the Deca down to 1/4 ml because I included it mainly for the joint benefits. It's just difficult to find the 1/4 mark on the syringe.

So on a 3mL syringe from the first line to the 1/2 ml mark there are 6 lines. The 3rd line down would be 1/4 ml correct?. Same thing with the rest of the markings, yes?

That Mast E will be used to keep or increase strength and DHT derived steroids have always gave me a good sense of well-being and increased libido and strength. It also has an anti-estrogenic effect which will help with some of the aromatization of the testosterone and deca. So it may possible help with the bloat associated with deca also.


Ok so the only thing I'm not sure of at the moment is if 225mg deca per week is enough to be a therapeutic dose to help with joints. I would think so. EDIT: I've looked it up and it seems 225mg should be fine for therapeutic dosage for joint benefits and pain relief. Edit:It'll be 300mg per week instead.

Personally 100 mgs deca is enough therapeutic I personally sure fuck WOULDN'T WANA RUN HIGH DOSES.OF TREN AND DECA on the same cycle ur going to not make it r
Through this cycle unless u have caber on hand y u splitting tren e up I to 3 different Shotz a week... is this ur first cycle with tren e?..


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[Dimsweetgains]

No wait. I think I'm gonna do 1/2ml Deca just on Monday and Friday. That will be less of a pain in the ass.

1/2 mL tren E(100mg) M,W,F

1/4 mL Test E (75mg) M,W,F

1/2 mL Deca (150mg) M,F

1 mL Mast E (200mg) M,W,F


Trying to figure out the math here. So it would be 2.25ml on Monday and Friday. On Wednesdays it would be 1.75ml.

Dude these are all long Ester steroids there is no need to run anything u have listed 3 times a week deca stays n ur system 18 days y 3 days a week the Enanthate ester last 10 12 days n the body which is what ur test and trends are sinless to inject those more that 2 times a week

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[Dimsweetgains]

Sure I know "they" recommend ace for the first time. That's just kind of silly though. You are gonna get more side effects from Ace because the drug will hit you faster and you'll achieve a higher peak plasma concentration. Not to mention you'll be injecting more which will further increase the peak blood concentration levels. Sure it'll exit your system faster when you get the sides, but I'd rather avoid the side effects in the first place or lower my chances of getting them and if I do get them they will be less intense.

Lmao that's complete none since think about this say u dose 100mgs tren ace M w f it only.stays n system 2 to 3 days
Now I want u to think about this. Ull never have more than 200gs n systwm at once We'll now u do the stupid ass thing and u run 100mgs of tren e m w f well by next Monday u still have over 300mgs tren n ur system and u will add another 100 that first shot will remain in there until the following Wednesday and u start over Enanthate last 10 days so that's almost 2 weeks so now where the acetate will never b 300mgs n ur body at once ur about to have 500 600 mgs tren e anD gonna have 300mgs deva Lmao I can't wait to hear how bad those nipples.leak bro

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[Dimsweetgains]

Here..

Lmfao no bro they take weeks to build up bro

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[Dimsweetgains]

Yeah I was thinking of running the tren at 1/8 of a mL 3 times per week. That would total 75mg per week. Plus increasing the testosterone, lowering the deca even more or cutting it out, and lowering the Mast E to only 1/4 ml or 50mg 3 times per week for a total of 150mg. Was gonna do this today but I chickened out and didn't. Plus now I'm dealing with another problem. I now have a stye on the inside of eyelid. Sucks because I wear contacts and my eyelid is swollen up. Plus I'm getting some pain in the opposite eye so I hope I'm not developing one in that eye also.

Dude run tren E at 100 mgs once a week or 50gs twice a week this is y u get the longer esters for less frequently injection

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