The Laws of Trenbolone

spyderwebb said:
Y would u run enenthate if anything run ace that way if u have issues u can stop and have it out of your system quick


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Yeah I figured that with the longer ester the sides wouldn't be as bad because its entering the bloodstream slower and with a smaller amount of drug so their would be less of a peak concentration of drug. If a drug enters your system faster and with a shorter ester, so less actual drug then it's gonna hit you harder. That's just common sense. Or so I thought...Doesn't make sense why I would respond so well to Tren Base and feel freakin amazing and then try Tren E and feel like I've lost my damn mind.
 
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Thought that was the main idea behind Tren Hex. The really slow/long ester it has prevents the drug from entering your system too fast at that's why it doesn't give the sides that other other ester versions do,supposedly.
 
Screw Tren for now. I'll do Test E/DHB and Mast E. That should be a pretty good cycle for Recomp/Cut.
 
Kins said:
Yeah I figured that with the longer ester the sides wouldn't be as bad because its entering the bloodstream slower and with a smaller amount of drug so their would be less of a peak concentration of drug. If a drug enters your system faster and with a shorter ester, so less actual drug then it's gonna hit you harder. That's just common sense. Or so I thought...Doesn't make sense why I would respond so well to Tren Base and feel freakin amazing and then try Tren E and feel like I've lost my damn mind.
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Well I can tell u from my exp with tren e... never been able to tolerate that compound in enenthate seems that the longer it takes to build up in my system the worse the sides are as in high blood pressure insomnia:.. always prefer ace even over tren base because usually tren base has gcol in it never been a fan of gcol I have tried it a few times and kindney funktion also impaired while on gcol gear... I think u will do better with ace .75 eod that's what I'm on now... feel great


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spyderwebb said:
Well I can tell u from my exp with tren e... never been able to tolerate that compound in enenthate seems that the longer it takes to build up in my system the worse the sides are as in high blood pressure insomnia:.. always prefer ace even over tren base because usually tren base has gcol in it never been a fan of gcol I have tried it a few times and kindney funktion also impaired while on gcol gear... I think u will do better with ace .75 eod that's what I'm on now... feel great


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Well I've gotta at least get rid of most of my Tren E stash first before I consider purchasing some Ace. I just don't like more pinning. For now I like pinning M,W,F and then taking a break from poking myself on the weekend. It works great that way because I don't have to worry about getting a pin in on the weekend. Plus "other people" are around on the weekend and I like to keep things private...
 
Kins said:
Well I've gotta at least get rid of most of my Tren E stash first before I consider purchasing some Ace. I just don't like more pinning. For now I like pinning M,W,F and then taking a break from poking myself on the weekend. It works great that way because I don't have to worry about getting a pin in on the weekend. Plus "other people" are around on the weekend and I like to keep things private...
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Ok


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So for now I'm doing, DHB(200mg M,W,F), Test E(300mg M,W,F),Mast E(200mg M,W,F). I'm gonna have to change it up slightly though because I want to be able to inject delts and I've read they old hold 2ml at most.
 
Unless I change it by injecting half in the left side and half in the right, just changing pins in-between.
 
Mountain-Man said:
I had bad anxiety and anger problems on tren e,but with ace I get very little sides werd I know ,but so am ibana
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Trenbolone was never meant for humans anyway. Except for Tren Hex, but I'd like to know why if the only difference with Parabolan is the ester...
 
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I don't know now if what I've read is true about Tren and Test fighting for receptors and that Tren always wins and you get unbound test floating around in your system and that's what messes you up. Maybe that was just some broscience. Maybe with higher test that could stop some of the anxiety?. All this talk about how Tren is so awesome all the time on the forums...I just don't understand, with all the crazy side effects that doesn't make any sense. Don't know about you guys, but I like a drug that makes me feel good!. Not something that I take that I have to suffer through awful side effects just to get some UN-maintainable gains. This is the reason I hate Superdrol and the majority of liver harsh AAS. Makes you feel like death and kills your appetite, so then people end up taking other drugs just to be able to get rid of or lessen the side effects of the drug causing the problem in the first place!. It's like a dog chasing it's tail, except the dog is having fun.
 
Kins said:
I don't know now if what I've read is true about Tren and Test fighting for receptors and that Tren always wins and you get unbound test floating around in your system and that's what messes you up. Maybe that was just some broscience. Maybe with higher test that could stop some of the anxiety?. All this talk about how Tren is so awesome all the time on the forums...I just don't understand, with all the crazy side effects that doesn't make any sense. Don't know about you guys, but I like a drug that makes me feel good!. Not something that I take that I have to suffer through awful side effects just to get some UN-maintainable gains. This is the reason I hate Superdrol and the majority of liver harsh AAS. Makes you feel like death and kills your appetite, so then people end up taking other drugs just to be able to get rid of or lessen the side effects of the drug causing the problem in the first place!. It's like a dog chasing it's tail, except the dog is having fun.
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Have you tried pinning it again since the first time?


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Wikipedia said:
Trenbolone is a synthetic anabolic–androgenic steroid (AAS) of the nandrolone group which itself was never marketed.[1][2][3][4][5] Trenbolone ester prodrugs, including trenbolone acetate (brand names Finajet, Finaplix, others) and trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (brand names Parabolan, Hexabolan), are or have been marketed for veterinary and clinical use.[1][2][3][5][6][7] Trenbolone acetate is used in veterinary medicine in livestock to increase muscle growth and appetite, while trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate was formerly used clinically in humans but is now no longer marketed.[1][2][3][5] In addition, although it is not approved for clinical or veterinary use, trenbolone enanthate is sometimes sold on the black market under the nickname Trenabol.[5]
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Veterinary

Trenbolone, as trenbolone acetate, improves muscle mass, feed efficiency, and mineral absorption in cattle.[5]
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Then again I'm not a cattle and my feed efficiency is fine.

So enanthate is not even approved for veterinary use. So maybe even though the drug is the same the ester dramatically changes the effects and side effects of the drug. Sort of like when Methyl 1 Test came on the market. Adding the "Methyl group" dramatically changed the drug, it's effect and it's side effects.
 
Kins said:
Nope. Did DHB(200mg),Test E(300mg), and Mast E (200mg) today. That'll be my cycle pinning 3 times per week.
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Just seems like you can’t really know for sure if it was the tren unless you try it again and get the same results right?


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Aesthetictech said:
Just seems like you can’t really know for sure if it was the tren unless you try it again and get the same results right?


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Yeah, well I know It was not the Mast E now. Not sure if Deca is associated with anxiety, but I doubt it. Have never read anything about it being associated with anxiety. I've read DECA is "side effect friendly". So it was more than likely the Tren or just my reaction to it in my mind because of reading so many horror stories, I just associated it with that....
 
Kins said:
So for now I'm doing, DHB(200mg M,W,F), Test E(300mg M,W,F),Mast E(200mg M,W,F). I'm gonna have to change it up slightly though because I want to be able to inject delts and I've read they old hold 2ml at most.
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Have never tried dhb... eq never did anything for me at all even at 1600 mg... keep in mind that it wasn't the d-line... I might give it a go... m1t was also shit... didn't like it at all


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spyderwebb said:
Have never tried dhb... eq never did anything for me at all even at 1600 mg... keep in mind that it wasn't the d-line... I might give it a go... m1t was also shit... didn't like it at all


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Like you I don't feel like I got much from eq, ran it twice. Never ran it as high as you. My buddy Motor City loves the stuff. I believe the first time I ran it it was the original QV
 

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