Test C vs E

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Kins said:
What would be the point in doing that?. I've never seen or heard anyone else say that. You mean to tell me that you change your testosterone ester every 4 weeks?. Please explain this more.
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Tons will sit here and say I'm crazy but is test, test? I have many pro friends that tell me to switch esters as much as you can do you will never hit the stale point and always feel fresh. After hearing many protocols it seems logic to switch at week 4-5, I do the same with my oral, I run dbol, and drol all year just with switching every 8 weeks cause that's the week drol will quit, so what's the point in staying on it, it will only cause water gain and that's it. so in saying that, is there a point staying on a ester till you get stale then to switch? I say no and have no issues with gaining size and keeping myself in the game everyday. The only days I feel tired and my appetite are down is when I hit week 5-6 on a heavy cut down cycle and that's when tren is really bogging me down.

on a bulk, I switch from prop, enth, cyp and sus, and just keeping rotating them I start off with a gram and adjust from there. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it!!
 
I think cyp has fresher raws cause it's use world wide for other things than just bodybuilding.
 
Stretchdoeswork said:
You guys are right. I have a lot of research to do.


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Hey man we are hear to help you! Sorry for the tough love but honestly we want you to do it the correct way. We want your first cycle experience to be really good. That means understanding atleast the basics of compounds, which Ester does what.


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suraonyx23 said:
Hey man we are hear to help you! Sorry for the tough love but honestly we want you to do it the correct way. We want your first cycle experience to be really good. That means understanding atleast the basics of compounds, which Ester does what.


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Nah man I take it as great advice. Can't dive into something without knowing the basics first. Gonna read up on some stuff and get knowledge. Thanks for the replies honestly.


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Stretchdoeswork said:
Nah man I take it as great advice. Can't dive into something without knowing the basics first. Gonna read up on some stuff and get knowledge. Thanks for the replies honestly.


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Ask questions man. Plenty of knowledgeable people here who are willing to help.


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Just don't use prop. I don't know who started the idea that new guys should use prop? I guess it's because it's easier to adjust dosage? But it fucking hurts especially on virgin muscles. Plus you need to pin eod which is a lot of someone who just started out.


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Andrew0409 said:
Bro you have no business touching AAS right now. We can answer questions but you have like zero knowledge.


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Now be nice. You were there at one point yourself.

We are here to help others who do not know.

He posted the exact same question in another forum on this board and was bashed by few members as well.

I absolutely agree that a little education is in order here which I then made two lengthly posts comparing the two esters.

We all were there at sometime during our prior to our initial cycle so just cut him a little slack.
 
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01dragonslayer said:
Now be nice. You were there at one point yourself.

We are here to help others who do not know.

He post the exact same question in another forum on this board and was bashed by few members as well.

I absolutely agree that a little education is in order here which I then made to lengthly posts comparing the two esters.

We all were there at sometime during our prior to our initial cycle so just cut him a little slack.
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I'm not trying to be a dick or bash him. Do you feel like he should be running AAS right now? I gave him some advice, actually telling him that he has no business running a cycle at this point is the best advice anyone can give him. There's just basic knowledge he doesn't even know. We can't walk him through every single thing. What he's asking is in ever AAS basic information section. It's obvious he hadn't don't any research of his own.
Ask questions, but have some basic knowledge is what I'm saying.

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Andrew0409 said:
I'm not trying to be a dick or bash him. Do you feel like he should be running AAS right now? I gave him some advice, actually telling him that he has no business running a cycle at this point is the best advice anyone can give him. There's just basic knowledge he doesn't even know. We can't walk him through every single thing. What he's asking is in ever AAS basic information section. It's obvious he hadn't don't any research of his own.


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IMO the only the ways to know if is ready for cycling are training history, age, weight, BF%,....almost like a bio of him. I absolutely agree that that he needs to learn....and learn some more. I have always said that education is paramount and research needs to be in place, but 'bashing' could also send him in the wrong direction.
 
I could care less when he starts. It's the spoon-feeding that bothers me. Sure helping out a little is fine but just copying and pasting information he could find on google in seconds is just a waste of time.
 
Kins said:
I could care less when he starts. It's the spoon-feeding that bothers me. Sure helping out a little is fine but just copying and pasting information he could find on google in seconds is just a waste of time.
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I agree he needs to do research on his own and that would be a great way help educate himself. But 'bashing' someone is not an effective way to make a point.
 
Both an long ester but as a rookie u want a test as your base and if you are trying to put on size you want to add deca or npp and an oral like d bol


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Boyboy0622 said:
Both an long ester but as a rookie u want a test as your base and if you are trying to put on size you want to add deca or npp and an oral like d bol


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I respectfully disagree. First time cycler....keep it simple and see how your body responds.
 

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