Test-1-Cyp vs 7-MENT also Gyno Rebound Help

[Fedexgunot]

Test-1-Cyp First Timer, And Gyno Rebound 12+ Months after Great PCT!

Hey everyone, so I'm starting a new cycle and goin to start with my first run with Test-1-Cyp/Boldenone, was thinking of doing ment but gyno prone lately almost rid of it after not running in over a year and fighting it every few months, whats everyones opinion on this and anyone who has used the test1cyp how long to feel and as well see results? also anyone else have this problem with the gyno after long periods of off time, had a few successful PCTS and literally over 8-10 months clean of Everything I started to devlope it and I only had gyno 1 time on cycle years ago and got rid of it after 2 months.. before that I never had it in my life, Could it be from not lifting and allowing my chest to degrade over time as well and would hittin chest hard again be the cure? Very much appreciate the feedback! any kind of constructive criticism or even negative, I wanna hear it all!
34 years old
180
Time off cycle over 1 year
4-5 cycles 2 or 3 of them being heavy cycles
haven't lifted in a few months as well.. kind of let the stress of all my daily situations kill my drive, have more ralox, nolvadex, aromasin on the way as well as test, mast, test1cyp, dbol, adrol don't plan on using all those specially with the gyno my plan is this.
Test 100mg EOD
Test 1 Cyp 3x week 100-150mg
Mast (possibly) 100mg EOD
and the rest I have yet to decide...

 

[juicemonkey]

Try hitting a heavy ralox run and see if that gets rid of it

 

[Fedexgunot]

Try hitting a heavy ralox run and see if that gets rid of it

Much Appreciated! Exactly what I'm going to do, I was doing 80 daily for a while, Thinking of doing 120 for a month and slowly tapering, was also thinking of adding nolva at 10-20mg the first month. Aside from the pain and ongoing lump mostly in right nip I haven't noticed any signs of high estro, sex drive has been consistant and strong.. was considering seeing the doc for a damn ultra sound and try to get them to throw me on a serm.

 

[juicemonkey]

Ya try what you said but 80mg of ralox should be plenty and if it doesn’t work go see the doc. Be honest and hopefully he’ll hook you up with some pharma grade serms

 

[Fedexgunot]

Hell yea, That would be the Endo I would end up seeing for that you think? if more tests are required?
And You have any experience with the test1cyp/bold? I chose that over npp, deca and trest because it doesn't aromatise as much I was thinking and I'm still looking for a good bulk without chancing any gyno rebound issues..?

 

[biggc1]

Hell yea, That would be the Endo I would end up seeing for that you think? if more tests are required?
And You have any experience with the test1cyp/bold? I chose that over npp, deca and trest because it doesn't aromatise as much I was thinking and I'm still looking for a good bulk without chancing any gyno rebound issues..?

I've heard 1 test cyp can be painful.

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[Fedexgunot]

I've heard 1 test cyp can be painful.

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Same here, its going to be a challenge from not pinning in over a year, I'm thinking its all going to hurt bein a damn virgin all over again lol Cant wait though.. so ive kinda planned once I get the gyno under control my cycle to be something like this..

Anadrol Kickstart 25mg 2x ED for first 4 weeks
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Mast Prop 100-125mg EOD
1TestCyp 150-200mg E2D
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD unless symptoms call for Daily.

 

[juicemonkey]

I heard that 1 test cyp makes you hot as fuck like tren too but I heard the results are good

 

[Fedexgunot]

I heard that 1 test cyp makes you hot as fuck like tren too but I heard the results are good

Damn so kind of similar to tren, probably from the drastic increase in red blood cell count.. I heard a lot of people donate blood on this because it gives you so much..

 

[juicemonkey]

Ya same with eq. I think bolds in general do that to you. But ya I heard the results are similar to tren as well

 

[Fedexgunot]

Ya same with eq. I think bolds in general do that to you. But ya I heard the results are similar to tren as well

Damn, That's one of my most disliked sides of tren, haven't got it everytime I used but when I did man I hated the trensomnia.. I'm willing to deal with whatever it takes to get this Spring Bulk on, Hoping by the end of the anadrol kick ill be up 10-12lbs lean. It's been a LONG time.. Any recommendations? Ill have Dbol as well, Figured Anadrol might be friendlier in the aromatizing department compared to dbol, Tho I would kind of like to throw dbol in..

I have a friend hes Anti Pin so hes going to be starting strictly an Anadrol/Dbol Run, his first time using Real Compounds, hes a beast already so I told him he ought to get a good en0ough boost out of that, Might as well ask Your guys advice on that? He was thinking of 40mg Dbol first week to get a feel then adding in the Anadrol at 50mg so 40dbol 50anadrol aromasin as needed..

 

[juicemonkey]

If he’s just starting he might be good with just one or the other. Tell him to just run the dbol first at 50-60mg for 4-6 weeks then take a couple weeks off then hit the anadrol at 75mg for another 4-6 weeks. Drol is stronger then dbol and dbol makes you feel like a fucking champ and I’ve never got it but I heard drol can make you feel like shit. Plus it’s better to see which compound is doing what. I’ve been off for a little while too now I can’t wait to hop back on. Worst tren side effect for me is the heart burn that shit sucks then the night sweats that shit hits me hard and the worst of all of them even tho it’s only really happened on my first run was the lethargy. The lethargy was so bad I could barley stay awake threw out the day I could literally sleep all day if I wanted. Ran it multiple times after that and even for a year strait and hadn’t got it since that first run. Tren is by far my favorite compound tho because I simply get the best results from it. Tren doesn’t aromatize either.

 

[biggc1]

Damn, That's one of my most disliked sides of tren, haven't got it everytime I used but when I did man I hated the trensomnia.. I'm willing to deal with whatever it takes to get this Spring Bulk on, Hoping by the end of the anadrol kick ill be up 10-12lbs lean. It's been a LONG time.. Any recommendations? Ill have Dbol as well, Figured Anadrol might be friendlier in the aromatizing department compared to dbol, Tho I would kind of like to throw dbol in..

I have a friend hes Anti Pin so hes going to be starting strictly an Anadrol/Dbol Run, his first time using Real Compounds, hes a beast already so I told him he ought to get a good en0ough boost out of that, Might as well ask Your guys advice on that? He was thinking of 40mg Dbol first week to get a feel then adding in the Anadrol at 50mg so 40dbol 50anadrol aromasin as needed..

I wouldn't run it without some form of test

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[Fedexgunot]

If he’s just starting he might be good with just one or the other. Tell him to just run the dbol first at 50-60mg for 4-6 weeks then take a couple weeks off then hit the anadrol at 75mg for another 4-6 weeks. Drol is stronger then dbol and dbol makes you feel like a fucking champ and I’ve never got it but I heard drol can make you feel like shit. Plus it’s better to see which compound is doing what. I’ve been off for a little while too now I can’t wait to hop back on. Worst tren side effect for me is the heart burn that shit sucks then the night sweats that shit hits me hard and the worst of all of them even tho it’s only really happened on my first run was the lethargy. The lethargy was so bad I could barley stay awake threw out the day I could literally sleep all day if I wanted. Ran it multiple times after that and even for a year strait and hadn’t got it since that first run. Tren is by far my favorite compound tho because I simply get the best results from it. Tren doesn’t aromatize either.

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Awesome thanks for the Tips, I was kind of thinking the same thing, that's why I told him to ease into it with one or the other, preferably dbol cause yea I think that makes you feel the best and hes lookin for mainly a bulk and strength gain, I've tried anadrol 1 time and wasn't overly happy with it, got a little of the cramping from it mostly calves and lower back, I think maybe it was shitty quality tho at that time or maybe I didn't run enough of it.. I'm going to try & convince him to stick it out for atleast 2-3 weeks on just dbol, He's been using prohormones maybe twice if they can even be called that I mean compared to preban 2014, The AD/DHEA/Andros 1, 4, Epi along with some good natty anabolic supps and hes already been enjoying that, I think he got his hands on a decent DS-PH a while back called "The 1" if your at all familiar with it, Basically a c17 alpha alkalated version of DHT, I think it was similar to mestanolone, not a overly potent prohormone but it worked great for him none the less.. And back to the Tren thing, I can agree I wanna say only the first time possibly is when I ran into the Anxiety, Trensomnia Sweats, some lethargy at times, As far as any after that all I can remember is the damn anxiety being a little more less bearable cause I have it bad enough as it is already so one of my only reasons for avoiding it, My last few runs as far as 19Nors I always stuck with NPP for some reason it always made me feel great with TestProp & Masteron Prop.. prob one of my most fav.stacks.. one thing specially this last run I noticed was not very much of a gain on the npp like I have in the past, came across quite a few threads with people say the same thing.. Another reason why I'm shooting for the 1testcyp, I really hate waiting on long esthers and I'm sure this isn't that much faster then EQ but I feel like I should get some kind of magic by week 3 if I frontload first 2-3 days and stick to a 3x a week schedule, Ive had really good results with Cyps & Enanthates doing that method..

I wouldn't run it without some form of test

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And this here has Definitely been one of my challenges when it comes to strictly oral cycles Hopefully you guys all can chime in one any good compounds,
I've been trying for quite some time to think of what would be a Good oral form/substitute For Test ?? I thought maybe some kind of dhea/Andros for weaker ones, wondered if M1T would have any positive bearing, any other possible Prohormone Designer Steroids legal or illegal? I've heard people using 7-MENT/Mentabolin/TReST/Trestolone the oral PH version as a form of test base with supposedly positive results, I tried it once just on a little run and didn't get Nothing out of oral AND transdermal, was sad as hell..

 

[juicemonkey]

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Awesome thanks for the Tips, I was kind of thinking the same thing, that's why I told him to ease into it with one or the other, preferably dbol cause yea I think that makes you feel the best and hes lookin for mainly a bulk and strength gain, I've tried anadrol 1 time and wasn't overly happy with it, got a little of the cramping from it mostly calves and lower back, I think maybe it was shitty quality tho at that time or maybe I didn't run enough of it.. I'm going to try & convince him to stick it out for atleast 2-3 weeks on just dbol, He's been using prohormones maybe twice if they can even be called that I mean compared to preban 2014, The AD/DHEA/Andros 1, 4, Epi along with some good natty anabolic supps and hes already been enjoying that, I think he got his hands on a decent DS-PH a while back called "The 1" if your at all familiar with it, Basically a c17 alpha alkalated version of DHT, I think it was similar to mestanolone, not a overly potent prohormone but it worked great for him none the less.. And back to the Tren thing, I can agree I wanna say only the first time possibly is when I ran into the Anxiety, Trensomnia Sweats, some lethargy at times, As far as any after that all I can remember is the damn anxiety being a little more less bearable cause I have it bad enough as it is already so one of my only reasons for avoiding it, My last few runs as far as 19Nors I always stuck with NPP for some reason it always made me feel great with TestProp & Masteron Prop.. prob one of my most fav.stacks.. one thing specially this last run I noticed was not very much of a gain on the npp like I have in the past, came across quite a few threads with people say the same thing.. Another reason why I'm shooting for the 1testcyp, I really hate waiting on long esthers and I'm sure this isn't that much faster then EQ but I feel like I should get some kind of magic by week 3 if I frontload first 2-3 days and stick to a 3x a week schedule, Ive had really good results with Cyps & Enanthates doing that method..



And this here has Definitely been one of my challenges when it comes to strictly oral cycles Hopefully you guys all can chime in one any good compounds,
I've been trying for quite some time to think of what would be a Good oral form/substitute For Test ?? I thought maybe some kind of dhea/Andros for weaker ones, wondered if M1T would have any positive bearing, any other possible Prohormone Designer Steroids legal or illegal? I've heard people using 7-MENT/Mentabolin/TReST/Trestolone the oral PH version as a form of test base with supposedly positive results, I tried it once just on a little run and didn't get Nothing out of oral AND transdermal, was sad as hell..

I think what he’s saying is your buddy’s going to have to balls up and pin lol I’ve never tired npp but have always wanted too. And as for the 1test cyp it should kick in as fast as any other cyp ester which means you should start feeling it on about week 3 maybe even earlier.

 

[Fedexgunot]

Update on my Situation(s) for anyone following or to bless me with their feedback..
Started off I believe the 2nd with pharm grade Nolvadex 20mg tab ED and ordered some RC Ralox 60mg/ml
from I think one of the more established and top rated companies because my source forgot to send my pharm grade Evista/Ralox so I kicked off Week1 20mg Nolva, 120mg Ralox, 12.5(half tab also pharm grade) Aromasin every other day,

Week 2 dropped Nolva down to half tab(10mg) and Ralox to 90mg daily
Heres kind of a weird observation, about a week leading up to this Program the pain and sensitivity was almost nonexistent and the lump kinda seemed to soften up? Weird, reminds me of those situations with other health issues or even car trouble, when you go to get it looked at or fixed its as if it never existed.. maybe someone can explain this, Anyhow it Did return by middle of week1

Not sure if I mentioned but it has been almost strictly my right peck, But when it started back during week1 both were getting sensitive with righty being the worst, little soreness and bumps, puffiness at times or pointy.. Back to the run so far;
Weeks 2 & 3 Have been same, Nolva10mg Ralox90mg ED in the Morning, Aromasin EOD @ 12.5mg
I decided to back off at the start of this week believe it is wk4 now even though I haven't noticed any progress at all figured I would lower it and see if it gets worse, So now Nolva10, Ralox60 ED

To explore another possibility because I honestly have not felt in the least bit like estro or e2 is to high I started .25 Prami last night thinking maybe prolactin as a factor, going to run this week and bump to .5 by tomorrow see how I feel by then,
One other thing I didn't really think about was me being on a prescription of Paxil/Paroxetine and have been noticing people suspecting it to be a strong factor in some gyno issues, I have been taking it for over a year now at 40mg a day though so Again, Hard to believe it to be even a small part of the problem..
I know I need to get my stubborn a$$ into the doc for some labs & ultrasounds, going to for sure next week!

That all being said can Anyone make even a slight guess as to what it could be, Cause ive been kinda stumped with the fact that my libido has been strong as ever with maybe 2-3 days out of a month not feeling like I could pounce right in it, and That honestly is selling myself short,
Everything has felt good and this gyno has been plaguing me since around early novemberish last year going from extremely painful and sensitive right nipz to somewhat more tolerable..

As I said before it from the flare up going back to the end of my last extremely smooth PCT it has been about a year, I feel like I'm rambling on but I had to throw this one last recent observation out there
I have been off cycle and have not so much as touched a pre workout scoop, multivitamin, amino, Anything and fell off the Iron horse shortly after PCT I haven't stepped foot in a gym or done anything other then 50 pushups 1 random day out of the last 2 months or so and I actually decided that a little belly I nevr had before was buggin I naturally started cutting weight to lean out and prepare for a serious recomp or bulk, Well it got pretty bad with my hectic schedule not eating regularly so I ended up droppin from my steady weight of 181-188 to a majorly embarrassing 161 Febuary 20th,

Well I ended up in jail for a couple weeks, Ended up getting out early March I believe, Well all of the freaking sudden this being no fairy tale Every couple of days to Each week not even being that long ago I started freaking bulking and Lean at that as if I had jumped on some damn instant release Xmen Juice and all I was doing was eating everything of course,
Has me kind of perplexed.. Loving it Of Course!, The wifey was giving me shit sayin I got back on cycle, and I don't blame her for feeling that way , I've experienced muscle memory several times over the years, That always required a degree of Retraining of some form though,

This daily and as lean as I have been staying, Not doing a damn thing to stimulate it besides eating, I still have barely started back training the last few days. it's just been a crazy experience just over the last 3-4 weeks
Again Hoping for some feedback and I'm really Interested in hearing anyone elses similar experiences
Thanks to all my brothers and sisters, love & respect to everyone and have a great day & weekend!

 

[juicemonkey]

If you have medical insurance I would just go see a doc bro. Get an ultrasound and go from there. He’ll be able to hook you up with pharma grade shit and if it’s something that can’t be gotten rid of with meds then get that shit taken out lol then you won’t have to worry about gyno ever again

 

[Fedexgunot]

Hey guys so an,update im scheduled with the breast surgeon for an ultra sound and my gyno has gone way down, kinda sucks cause id rather be seen well its most pronounced, anyways got labs back prolactin is 4.3 ng/ML
MY estrogen looks high and test is way low i been off serms and all for 2 weeks now just to push it but heres the results tell me what ya think..

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[C587]

Get the gyno out if you plan on continuing AAS use. I had the surgery and it was one of the better decisions I've made.

I've tried the 1 test cyp from 3/diff places. All of them were painful as fuck.

Dont know enough to help ya with your bloodwork results. I'll tag a buddy of mine who can give you some good advice though. [MENTION=2285]Dt450[/MENTION]