Superdrol the best steroid for hair loss?

[BobbySweeney]

Just looked at a chart showing androgenic/anabolic ratios of every steroid. Is superdrol really completely safe for hair? It is very non androgenic; hell it looks like females should take it.

 

[BobbySweeney]

Primobolan Depot and NPP seems to be the next biggest winner as far as hairloss risk.

 

[Thaistick]

Primo makes me and many others lose hair like nothing else.

 

[BobbySweeney]

Primo makes me and many others lose hair like nothing else.

Damnit!

 

[Roc]

If your worried about ur hair, stop Messing with gear. The meds that stop hair loss and all that crap are fine if your not using gear. I never understood why people try to go under the radar, use gear and try to keep there hair, guess what ur gonna loose it. If baldness runs in the family your done!!

 

[Kins]

Everyone deserves to feel pretty!

 

[Argon Coagulator]

If you are going to use steroids then you need to accept the fact that it may accelerate hair loss. People think if they avoid DHT then they are safe, but this is NOT true.

ALL steroids are capable of stimulating the androgen receptors in the scalp and therefore - baldness can occur even in the absence of steroids that convert to, or are derived from, DHT. Lots of people get this wrong.

It is true that some steroids are worse than others, so if you are really concerned then you can choose one with a high anabolic-to-androgenic ratio, like Anavar or Deca. Alternatively, you could use testosterone combined with a course of finasteride to reduce scalp DHT conversion.

I personally am having success with Nizoral Shampoo from Wal-Mart, washing my hair with it approximately 5 days per week. The ketaconozal blocks DHT from damaging your hair follicles and if you use it consistently, it halts hairloss in general- on or off cycle. My hairline is thickening up since I started using it a month ago.

Use: EQ, Deca/NPP, Var, Tbol (in reality these become androgenic too once the does get high enough, but at least you have more Lee-way for upping doses before this becomes an issue)

Avoid: Tren, Masteron, Winny, Primo, M1T and Test over 350mg per week. These are either DHT derivate or just extremely androgenic in nature. Test becomes extremely androgenic once you surpass 500mg per week IMO.

Other compounds like Dbol, anadrol, SuperDrol are sort of a grey area where you may get away with using them short term, so long as you're washing with Nizoral and possibly using Rogaine too. Use these orals sparingly. I would wash with Nizoral 7-days per week while using these orals. Always let the Nizoral shampoo sit in your hair for 5-7 mins, or roughly the time it takes to wash your body, before rinsing it out.

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Hair today, gone tomorrow... Time to shave the skull...

 

[GarlicChicken]

With women it's a whole different animal than men. The type of compiund means nothing, and they will respond uniquely to each based on the individual. Just like men, but the differences in response seem to be much more dramatic. I've heard of women using SD very successfully without hardly any negative effects, but that's only one individual I've seen. I've also heard of women having bad sides from anavar, whereas most don't.

SD is harsh, but I can't really comment on the hair effects. Nothing really touches my hair to be honest

 

[RamboStallone]

You can't gauge severity of potential hairloss by looking at the anabolic to androgneic ratio lol. Everyone will be different anyway but rule of thumb is DHTs will be worse on the hair and sdrol is a DHT.

 

[BobbySweeney]

If you are going to use steroids then you need to accept the fact that it may accelerate hair loss. People think if they avoid DHT then they are safe, but this is NOT true.

ALL steroids are capable of stimulating the androgen receptors in the scalp and therefore - baldness can occur even in the absence of steroids that convert to, or are derived from, DHT. Lots of people get this wrong.

I am discovering this through reading.
I'd love to know the reason behind this, as, on paper, there is no reason I can see why a non androgenic compound should cause hair loss.
But clearly they can and do (superdrol).
My guess is inflammation of the scalp caused through some other means, as I don't see any reason to suspect calcification.

What I don't believe is that you have to say goodbye to your hair if you use Testosterone. Case in point: Pro's like Jay Cutler.

 

[BobbySweeney]

You can't gauge severity of potential hairloss by looking at the anabolic to androgneic ratio lol. Everyone will be different anyway but rule of thumb is DHTs will be worse on the hair and sdrol is a DHT.

Actually, as a general rule, you can look at the anabolic to androgenic ratio. It's not perfect but it is a good guide.

 

[BobbySweeney]

For the record,
The main problem with Ketoconazole is not the Ketoconazole, it's the shampoo they stick it in.

I've always wanted to make my own Ketoconazole shampoo by adding the powder to a shampoo that wasn't shit. There are some good Ketoconazole shampoos on the market but the concentration is 1%, not 2%, which kind of sucks.

I also have finasteride and ducasteride, I've just never used them because of the potential sides. I use minoxidil daily and other shit. I've had hair surgery, and it looks great; I'm just trying to optimize what I had put in and protect it.


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[Natedog]

Been using finasteride for years no issues I believe the sides to be overplayed. How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? The only side I was worried about was ED but based on age health probably not an issue

For the record,
The main problem with Ketoconazole is not the Ketoconazole, it's the shampoo they stick it in.

I've always wanted to make my own Ketoconazole shampoo by adding the powder to a shampoo that wasn't shit. There are some good Ketoconazole shampoos on the market but the concentration is 1%, not 2%, which kind of sucks.

I also have finasteride and ducasteride, I've just never used them because of the potential sides. I use minoxidil daily and other shit. I've had hair surgery, and it looks great; I'm just trying to optimize what I had put in and protect it.


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[Kins]

Superdrol is a dht derivative. Chemical name is (2α,17α-dimethyl-DHT). So is Anavar.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

I am discovering this through reading.
I'd love to know the reason behind this, as, on paper, there is no reason I can see why a non androgenic compound should cause hair loss.
But clearly they can and do (superdrol).
My guess is inflammation of the scalp caused through some other means, as I don't see any reason to suspect calcification.

What I don't believe is that you have to say goodbye to your hair if you use Testosterone. Case in point: Pro's like Jay Cutler.

Because DHT or not, it's still a steroid so the androgen receptor is being stimulated, which means hairloss is still accelerated.

Some guys not prone to hairloss won't lose any hair, some will if they take enough Tren. Then some guys prone to hairloss won't lose anymore than they already are and for other guys any amount of gear will finish them off...

 

[ranger134]

Primo makes me and many others lose hair like nothing else.

Hey buddy where you been? Haven't seen u on boards in long time.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

For the record,
The main problem with Ketoconazole is not the Ketoconazole, it's the shampoo they stick it in.

I've always wanted to make my own Ketoconazole shampoo by adding the powder to a shampoo that wasn't shit. There are some good Ketoconazole shampoos on the market but the concentration is 1%, not 2%, which kind of sucks.

I also have finasteride and ducasteride, I've just never used them because of the potential sides. I use minoxidil daily and other shit. I've had hair surgery, and it looks great; I'm just trying to optimize what I had put in and protect it.


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The 1% Nizoral is actually working quit well for me. If you use it nearly every day and leave it on for 5+ minutes it does the job as well as 2%. Alot of people see no difference in results between the 1-2%. You can order 2% from the UK btw. If you're really hardcore you'll ask you doctor to prescribe you the 10% prescription shit- you will NOT lose hair if you can get some of that stuff!

 

[ranger134]

The 1% Nizoral is actually working quit well for me. If you use it nearly every day and leave it on for 5+ minutes it does the job as well as 2%. Alot of people see no difference in results between the 1-2%. You can order 2% from the UK btw. If you're really hardcore you'll ask you doctor to prescribe you the 10% prescription shit- you will NOT lose hair if you can get some of that stuff!

Does have the capability to promote hair growth? Or just protects what you have. I completely full on sides and back but very thin on top. If I could get top back in order other than the huge amount of grey hair I would look20 again lol. I heard gh has ability to promote hair growth also

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Ill weigh in on this one as I have no desire to go bald and believe one can do PEDS and not. I have MPB. Its the rear crown of my head and I now have it under control. I use a shampoo called Majestic Pure, take dutest at .5 daily, and use minoxidal 2x's a day. I also use a supplement but Ill have to dig it out when I get home. Lastly, theres another topical out there but the name escapes me at the moment. My PEDS are usually Test, Tren, TBol, SD, and occasionally M1T. I stay away from Winny, Mast, Primo, and Proviron. Im doing my last Tren run now as Im older and done with it. Im going to stick to Test and TBol from now on as they are always good to me. You CAN have hair and use PEDS. Just watch what is goin on and adjust if u start shedding. Check ire hands in the shower and sleep on a white pillow case.



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