Shelf life

[ek5.56]

Couple questions for you folks.

1) With regards to AAS - test specifically. Forgive me if this is a newb/stupid question, but I do not know that answer. What is the typical shelf life of say, test prop? For example, if I came across a killer deal and wanted to take advantage of it, but wasn't ready to run a cycle of said prop, but would eventually, is there a time frame that it can sit on the shelf before it should be replaced?


2) Separate topic of discussion. This is with regards to PH/DSs that do have an expiration date. Specifically Blackstone Labs DMZ 2.0 and their Alpha-1 Max (1-AD, M1T precursor). These bottles are sealed still sealed. I bought them just before the ban at which time BSL discontinued these products. So I dont know exactly how long ago that was, but I'm sure it gives you a rough idea. These bottle have no expiration date stamped or etched anywhere. I've got through the bottles label and bottle itself, top to bottom all the way around. Nothing. Any idea how long this stuff is actually good for before degrading or losing potency? Just dont want to toss if I dont need to.

Thanks

 

[Kins]

Just ignore so called expiration dates. They are basically meaningless. There have been studies of people using drugs 10 plus years after supposed "expiration" with absolutely no loss in potency whatsoever.

 

[Kins]

http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2012/...-have-nothing-to-do-with-shelf-life-of-drugs/

 

[Kins]

If you want, you can send all your "expired" drugs to me. I'll test them out for you and let you know if they are good.

 

[Hevi-head]

A bottle of test will last years.
The first test I ever ran was extremely old vet grade prop. I was doing work at a veterinary office when I was younger and hard up (and before the internet) and found some in an old storage closet that looked the old meds graveyard. I swear the shit looked like it was made in the 60's (this was in probably '93) and had crashed. It was some painful shit but I grew like a weed on it. I just threw the vials away a couple years ago since it was the first I ever ran. I wish I would've saved them.
I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the same I'm just says the shit seems to last forever.

 

[ek5.56]

http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2012/...-have-nothing-to-do-with-shelf-life-of-drugs/

thanks Kins. Thats news to me and very interesting. This comes as a shock to me as I, and Im sure the majority of other people, see an expiration date a year or most past, and think something is no good anymore, or has lost potency. I've read on other boards where people actually freeze stuff thinking it keeps it from going through this process, or extends its "shelf life". Ive seen no proof of this being true and never done it myself, but to suggest that expiration dates are essentially a way for pharma companies to create an increase in people buying more meds simply because something is expired is certainly has me rethinking things. But to do a study with drugs that are 40 years old?! First of all, who the hell kept it that long. And two, if drugs are 86% effective after that long, leads me to believe that after 3-5 years, they are 100% or close enough to it.

 

[Kins]

thanks Kins. Thats news to me and very interesting. This comes as a shock to me as I, and Im sure the majority of other people, see an expiration date a year or most past, and think something is no good anymore, or has lost potency. I've read on other boards where people actually freeze stuff thinking it keeps it from going through this process, or extends its "shelf life". Ive seen no proof of this being true and never done it myself, but to suggest that expiration dates are essentially a way for pharma companies to create an increase in people buying more meds simply because something is expired is certainly has me rethinking things. But to do a study with drugs that are 40 years old?! First of all, who the hell kept it that long. And two, if drugs are 86% effective after that long, leads me to believe that after 3-5 years, they are 100% or close enough to it.

As long as they are stored properly I'd have no problem with using them.

 

[ek5.56]

As long as they are stored properly I'd have no problem with using them.

Everything I have has been in a cabinet in the basement which is always cool and dry. I think I'll have to kick start a future test cycle with that Alpha 1 then.
I'd use the DMZ 2.0 but it not only has dymethazine in it, it also has methylstenbolone. Its touted as being a great compound but after seeing so many negative reviews I honestly don't care to use it. It seems like it wont fit my goals. What I've gathered is msten is great for strength but NOT as dry as it is led to be. After having used DMZ and got very good strength gains, I see no need to bother with a second methyl such as methylstenbolone. If you want to test it out, say the word.

 

[Kins]

Everything I have has been in a cabinet in the basement which is always cool and dry. I think I'll have to kick start a future test cycle with that Alpha 1 then.
I'd use the DMZ 2.0 but it not only has dymethazine in it, it also has methylstenbolone. Its touted as being a great compound but after seeing so many negative reviews I honestly don't care to use it. It seems like it wont fit my goals. What I've gathered is msten is great for strength but NOT as dry as it is led to be. After having used DMZ and got very good strength gains, I see no need to bother with a second methyl such as methylstenbolone. If you want to test it out, say the word.

I try to stay away from most orals these days. Some of the more traditional oral AAS I have not tried though and may end up trying them in the future.