Questions about HCG

[gbb_04]

Dr. Rand and the "Anabolic Doc" are sports doctors and they say they prescribe 500iu EOD for on cycle support. Rand recommends starting HCG atleast 6 weeks before coming off cycle or HRT, etc, at 500iu EOD.

For kickstarting men who are hypogonadal from gear abuse or whatever reason, I see much higher doses like 3-5000 IU 2-3x per week for several months.



Research shows that 250iu EOD maintains 93% of baseline intra-testicular testosterone production while on 200mg of Test E.

500iu EOD maintains and actually increases it by 26% above baseline levels while on 200mg of Test E per week, after only 3 weeks of beginning HCG.

125iu EOD maintains something like 70% of baseline levels.


250 iu twice a week may be enough to maintain testicular volume, but it is not enough to maintain full natural testosterone and sperm production.

If not concerned about fertility, just reversing shutdown, I would do 500iu 2x/wk or 250iu EOD.

If you are concerned about fertility, I would do the full 500iu EOD.


You can get 5000iu bottles for $15 here, there's no need to worry about making a bottle last 10 weeks. Besides, it's only really good for 4-5 weeks sitting in your fridge in Bac water. After that the potency can go down drastically. I think everyone should be using HCG. Personally I feel way better on it, libido and orgasm intensity are stronger than while completely shut down on synthetic testosterone. I believe your body operates more optimally on cycle if you keep your natural test production firing on all cylinders with HCG. A must for 10+ week cycles. Seth the Spartan is a proponent of this concept.

Sorry bro I'm blowing this thread all to pieces. I went back and re read and i saw again where you said to start at 250-500iu week. Thanks again

 

[viperspike]

I dont think its really ever too late to start HCG while on TRT. I personally am prescribed 500iu a week which i split up into 2 doses of 250. I do one 250iu 3 days after my Test Cyp injection and another the day of my Test injection. I remember reading that HCG has an active life of around 48 to 72hrs, hints my roughly 3 day interval. The only thing i would note that has not been covered yet is: One article I read showed that doses above I believe 500iu's started intra-testicular aromatization. And that the higher the dose the more aromatization happened.I believe over stimulation of the leydig cells happens around 1000iu's and over time can cause permanent desensitization of the cells to LH.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

I may be kinda repeating myself here. But I've been on TRT now for about 3 years.. but have been reading about hcg for awhile now and i believe I'm wanting to incorporate it into my TRT program. Do you think starting HCG after being on for 3 years is to late? Or is it better to start now rather than later?

It's not too late, I mean you may never produce 800ng naturally but if the world ends and there's no more test I'd rather still be able to produce 3-400ng than 20ng bc my balls are too shriveled to produce T. Since you've been on three years you may want to do a bit more for a kickstart. 500iu EOD or 3x/wk for the first 4-6 weeks should help. Then you can lower it to more maintenance doses.

 

[gbb_04]

It's not too late, I mean you may never produce 800ng naturally but if the world ends and there's no more test I'd rather still be able to produce 3-400ng than 20ng bc my balls are too shriveled to produce T. Since you've been on three years you may want to do a bit more for a kickstart. 500iu EOD or 3x/wk for the first 4-6 weeks should help. Then you can lower it to more maintenance doses.

Ok, thats solid advice. Thanks again!

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Ok, thats solid advice. Thanks again!

Np brotha. I've been learning about HCG recently myself since I crashed pretty hard after being on 6 months. lol.. wasn't miserable, but just had very little libido (1x wk nut was plenty, my avatar wouldn't have impressed me much, lol) and a bit more fatigued.