Pharma grade orals stronger than UGL?

[ketsugo]

I'm agreeable with Motor. Seems every Tom Dick and Harry wants be internet famous via YouTube. I've even seen guys on a lot of forums just join those forums so they could get more YouTube followers. Truly it's the only reason they are on the forum. The younger generations seem to be fascinated with YouTube and these "gurus" with their "channels". YouTube is great for certain things but these D-Bags seeking internet fame ruined it, just like they ruined social media as a whole. I mean I respect the guys that have done the hard work before YouTube existed and would have had books and been recognizable outside of YouTube followers. Maybe I'm just old, but I enjoyed the days before YouTube, FaceBook, Twitter, and Insta-Gram. If I had to guess I would say 80 percent of the crap on social media platforms is total BS.

Sure the internet is great, but I'm not a fan of social media.
[MENTION=968]MotorCityMuscleMachine[/MENTION] - What do you think?.

Well PUT god damn right

 

[ketsugo]

The originally question is, I got guys who's been in the game longer than i've been alive tell me that for some reason, pharma grade seems to be significantly more potent for reasons they don't know even if they raws that are 99% pure. Is this just in their head?

Respectfully in this world there are morons and the older they get doesn't make them one bit smarter come on now

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

In my 20 years on forums this comes up a lot and sorry I think its the most asinine and preposterous thing to say. IN fact my two most effective cycles Ive ever done both HGH and AAS were UG with nominal doses. If you neeed 100 to equal 30 then they are just plain liars and underdosing and ripping you, off. Plus most avice on internet anywhere is complete bullshit. Experiment you are your best judge and teacher.

Well said Kets.., "again"...!

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I used 30mg of Balkan Anavar and it was stronger than 75mg of several UGL's Anavar!!
The kicker was this, they were for my wife to use in blisters it was a pick up for her safety.
She never used them so I did!!!

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[Muscle mechanic]

The originally question is, I got guys who's been in the game longer than i've been alive tell me that for some reason, pharma grade seems to be significantly more potent for reasons they don't know even if they raws that are 99% pure. Is this just in their head?

My experience with orals is Brands Pharma
Are way way way better. And heartburn doesn't exist!!!
Oils on other hand UGL oils are all I really use!!!
But orals not always but 8 out of 10 suck unless Pharma Brand!!
Anavar especially I have noticed.
It may be in my head but.......

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[dc81]

I don't know about all that. Back in early 2000's my first few runs with dbol was with Naps from Romania I think and the blue hearts both pharms grade and good. But the original British dragon 10mg dbol blew them both out of the water.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I don't know about all that. Back in early 2000's my first few runs with dbol was with Naps from Romania I think and the blue hearts both pharms grade and good. But the original British dragon 10mg dbol blew them both out of the water.

Overdosed will do it!!!
But dependable mg to mg purity is what is important.

A dependable go to dose so things are not out of whack!!

30mg compared to 30mg
Or
50mg labeled as 25mg compared to pure 25mg sure the unpure but overdosed by weight of raw is mislabeled and stronger but if we want 25mg we want that.
It will blow plans to use too little and throw alot off to use too much!

To me that is important!! If a Pharma isn't as strong as .... then.... isn't properly dosed

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[suraonyx23]

I don't know about all that. Back in early 2000's my first few runs with dbol was with Naps from Romania I think and the blue hearts both pharms grade and good. But the original British dragon 10mg dbol blew them both out of the water.

This right here! He knows cuz I ran those naps and pink Thais back then including Loeffler Reforvit 25mg dbol tabs and nothing has EVER came close still to this day! On drol it’s very hit or miss with Al Havi being some of the best ever with some IP drol back in the early 2000’s. There’s been a couple UGL’s who’ve had some good drol too but it’s hard to find

 

[dc81]

This right here! He knows cuz I ran those naps and pink Thais back then including Loeffler Reforvit 25mg dbol tabs and nothing has EVER came close still to this day! On drol it’s very hit or miss with Al Havi being some of the best ever with some IP drol back in the early 2000’s. There’s been a couple UGL’s who’ve had some good drol too but it’s hard to find

Reforvit 25mg Wow! I almost forgot about them.

dc.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Reforvit 25mg Wow! I almost forgot about them.

dc.

I am 42. I Used those too.
But with age and what happens in our body aging I think has more to do with it.
Because 1mg of Pharma grade is 1mg of Pharma grade period!!!
But counterfeits out there

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[Aesthetictech]

havent been in the game very long but to me it just sounds like pharma= higher QC meaning they actually test and/or even produce their own raws while some UGL "CLAIM" 99% purity but its just a hoax. IMO from a theoretical standpoint a true 99% raw is a 99% raw, whether pharma or UGL shouldnt really matter. I think the problem lies in the raw purity and testing/ documentation thereof.

 

[01dragonslayer]

By far pharm grsde orals are better ive used tons of dbol and drol from ugls 100mgs of ugl drol hasnt been as strong as 50mgs of pharm drol.,i can get better results from 30mgs of blue heart dbol than 75mgs of all the ugl dbol ive taken

Many determining factors.....purity, legitimacy, accurately dosed.....etc.

 

[bigpolak]

I've been in the game for 28yrs and seriously unless your a Pro or as big as a Pro you have no idea and I know I'm going to have alot of people not like me for this but I'm known for telling the truth and I'm going to do it now. I've taken Var and Anadrol and Test C and E right from the pharmacy and seriously I didn't notice any difference from some of the UGL's . Now I'm not kissing ass at all just saying the truth. I've taken Dragon Pharma, IP China, QV, Balkan, UpJohn right out the back door, Watson , Real British Dragon, Steris and many more pharmacy and UGL's . I have never taken more potent stuff than D-Red's stuff period. Only time I have is when I used to make my own Tren Ace in GSO and make it at 200mg/ml and that shit was crazy. Otherwise if you want good real Var try D-Reds Var or if you want it for a wifey Try Pharmacom 10mg Var it is clean and good if you split it in half for women. D-Reds Anadrol is the fucking BOMB ! I took 2 and worked out and thought the Hulk was coming through my body no BShit !! I don't give recommend products because they usually bite me in the ass. I have done construction for 30yrs full time and I won't recommend anyone to someone because you can't trust anyone. I recommended a close friend and he fucked me bad and got paid very well. I had to go back and fix his shit and lose 2 days of pay plus material just to keep my namesake . So when I say D-Red has amazing products I mean it for real .

 

[ketsugo]

I’m with ya bigpolak not just cuz I’m also polak lol but having made my best cycles on generic hgh or UG gear when Pharm brands didn’t cut it were over priced. In the old days may have been so but now we can all buy equipment filters etc and make quality. I recall few competitive guys made their own gear so if they depended on winning they made it good . It’s those guys way back who never set foot in gym or lifted a weight yet wanted to make money with dirty low dose gear . That’s like pre-internet days . So many members now across forums shit heads get discovered and shunned . I know like Dred is great gear , I’d take his over any pharmacy


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