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It cuts the shit out if me!! It is not a gainer and sides come from trying to gain with it and test being too high!
I get no sides the way I run it trail and error learned.
I only use to cut then hold that cut with other stuff.
Once I am ripped and at a cut state not just me everyone Dorian Yates proved it's window for clean growth right after that cut. Body responds to muscle growth after that low body fat cut and changing up. It responds by lean muscle growth.
So my reasons are to cut and do some gigs. I do model photo shoots that pay well. My tattoos or altered or edited out and nobody ever recognized me!! I have to achieve 5% for gigs and if i can grow more lean and have after tren I usually get a few more signed to do within the month. Can't say more but at 5'8" when 5% at 193 I am what they want. It's only few hours and keeps progressing. If i can be 202 at 5% I can do bigger spots in another line up.
I gotta lose all the fat than sag tightens up so well with tren. Trying without t3/t4 will see. I have a measure set in 55 days then will go from there...
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Now tren is hype and doesn’t really really work that well? Lol
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Idk it seems to be working good for me I dont need to cut or anything I have scrawny genes lol but i have made more strength and size gains using tren than anything I've done before for me test low at 250 a week and tren ace, npp at 75mg a day each has been unreal for me with no sides that I can tell
It doesn't stand out for me as being better than any other drug. The only thing that makes it stand out is side effects. This is from my perspective anyway. People talk like its the "be all end all" and I just don't see that as the truth. So I'm gonna continue asking about it and get others perspectives because I really want to understand. Why not use a combination of other drugs that don't cause so many side effects and get the same results?. Or better yet why not just use Trest?. Trest is superior in every way, the only problem being the high rate of aromatization. Price may hold people back but that's about it.
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I wouldn't say it's better than any other but it is a good tool for certain things and everyone responds differently to everything I made mediocre progress with tren alone no size gain really and decent size and strength with deca but putting them together made a whole new animal and I dont get any sides from it, so for me its awesome but for someone that gets alot of sides from it then not a good choice but if you havent tried tren and deca or npp together I recommend seeing how it does for you just from my experience with it it's been awesome
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I still run primo just cause I have had ways of getting it for cheap...
But tren is best and primo doesn't compare at all...
Tren does that magic thing if making muscle hard and ripped from fat loss. And my appetite gets less!!! I love tren like Shredz stack with Anadrol 50mg. Last year I got to 5-6% with cut blend and included Anadrol 25mg A day hgh 5iu generic and Novothyral.
@HeviHead do u get lethargic on tren? I am so dam tired it's unreal, all my labs were good before hopping on. I think it's hgh and tren both? I will add t4 100mcg or Novothyral mix to combat sides of being tired.
I have had hgh suppression thyroid before, especially when I start blast on hgh!!!
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If you love tren, i recommend tren + npp in a stack with winny to offset the 19 nor sides.
NPP with tren eh? What type of look do you get with those two combined? And how so does the winny offset
The 19 nor sides.
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I don't run winny but npp and tren for me has me looking really filled out and hard as a rock it's like getting the shredded look from tren but you still get bigger and strength is unreal I just came off after running it for 4 months and I am not the same person I was lol i was sitting around the low 190s and now I'm at 205 and my weight is still creeping up a little and strength is still there I'm still running 250 test a week like I did through my whole cycle. I dont really have any sides from this cycle that I know of my lipids were slightly high but tudca and nac brought them right back down
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Before I got my CPAP the combo of tren and shitty sleep was pretty bad but now that I’m actually getting real sleep lethargy isn’t an issue. If I do it’s mostly diet induced with carbs being too low too long
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I figured it out!!! I was sleeping and like baby still am. And eating plenty carbs atm!! Only cutting them after 3pm!
I did too many Phlebotomy's past 8 weeks. My iron stores got clipped and had flu, body withholds absorbing when sick to starve illness, and last phlebotomy was after flu....
So I started some iron and added T4 because hypo thyroid also affects iron metabolism.
It was DHB that made my Hemoglobin get out of control. Eq does same for me.
So did an iron and free t4 test and both were low.
HGH 3.3iu already had me hypo thyroid this time I confirmed before adding t4!!! Got test back and with hgh t4 alone works FAST!!! Just gonna use t4 at 100mcg if possible!!! I have T4, t3, and Novothyral all Pharma Grade.
I stayed off thyroid since June but adding the extra gear sucked me of not fast enough delivery of shuttling metabolism!!!
I really need t4 replacement dose and Dr too slow, he is retesting TSH and free t4 in July so now I will have to get off by June but t4 alone and only 100mcg won't be much of bother!!
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Also will add some b12 for help with iron. I gotta watch what I use these days because hemoglobin keeps going up until iron takes a hit.
Don't know if u guys ever took iron but it us like metal in acid bath of stomach and is horrible!!
And Phera-Flex for well being. Thankfully D-line got things that will help. Last year Anadrol did trick with Novothyral with hgh and tren!!
T4 helping, b12 will help and I believe Phera-Flex will bring up energy and well being!!
Lately I go with family and stay in car nap while they shop. I only go for ride to eat. Gym is good but nails me!!
Night sweats not much but thyroid been on down!!!
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MM, what a tangled steroid web you weave lol. Jesus.
Hope you are feeling better, man.
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It's magic, in a nutshell... Almost 3D look, NPP balloons you and tren keeps you dry/vascular.
Nandrolone = Progesterone Spike = Bloat
Winstrol = Anti-Progesterone
I don't have science on this next one, but did tren/winny once and seemed to not feel as shitty... So i wonder if winstrol also has anti prolactin properties, or if tren also increases progesterone.
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Getting better. Really it's my thyroid derangement that causes the issues. I try to stay off t4 or t3/t4 Mix for Dr to replace t4 but he is too dam slow.
I added t4 few days ago waited on the confirm free t4 was low. Night sweats kicked last night but didn't drench bed but sweated.
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Winny does bind to progest and prolactin receptors blocking them...
A dose of only 10mg of winny a day can help with this...
But note that receptors will be sensitive once winny out equation so I would still add some cabar a bit at least at end.
Also t3 is lowered by both deca and tren and with hgh even worse. Adding enough t4 will help as well with prolactin. Tren will cause thyroid suppression by prolactin and deca as well, t3 and t4 will also lower prolactin. Tren and deca both as progestins will cause increases that bind up t4 from being free to convert to t3. The claim is t3 should be used but more t4 will also allow less bound by Thyroxine Binding Globulin. Prolactin neg feeds thyroid and suppression increases prolactin as well... best way I can put it without doing some re-reading!!!
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