spyderwebb
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How long have u been using these... I would def say something if is a sponsor here
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Missed the muscle??
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How long have u been using these... I would def say something if is a sponsor here
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Hevi-head
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Alpha pharma isn’t pharmaceutical grade
spyderwebb
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Thought is was at some point... I used it about 4 years ago...
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Ironman404
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Been using them for a while man. The sust is D-Red and the test e is from a source not on this site.
This is the first time I've had the issue though...I'm assuming it's something I did incorrectly and not the gear.
spyderwebb
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I know it’s not red zone sus cuz I’m well stocked on it myself and have a few friends that r running it now with no prob... I would do separate shots next time to see which one irritates you
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It's just isolated incident!! I haven't heard of any tainted gear in long time.
So little story that is true!!! Had a buddy tell me he used some high mg gear and swole up at area, red, hot to touch and painfull.
Dr told him is was Cellulitis. Dr did blood work he had inflammation and can't remember if he had bacteria or not. Regardless he was given prednisone and antibiotics. NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH THE GEAR!!! Even in a sterile infection meaning from inflammation in tissues with injury, and breakdown of tissue internal, decay will cause bacteria!!!! So antibiotics treat condition and prednisone will stop inflammation!! Antibiotics are also used to treat inflammation as well!! Example acne, cystic acne, the antibiotics stop inflammation and area not swollen will flow pores ducts and open them!!! Antibiotics used in acne are often low dose doxycycline 20mg 2x a day and this is to stop inflammation and healing of hair follicles and pore ducts overtime. The problem is from within and not bacteria in these cases!!! Point antibiotics used more than to treat bacteria!!
Cellulitis from injection are 99% of time caused from bacteria from surface getting into injection area deep under surface from either improper cleaning or alot of bacteria in skin and it piece of surface skin getting under surface to decay. A good example of this is a tooth abcessed from Decay in root!! Bacteria also present in decaying matter under surface. What happens is body keeps in check or lymphatic system, when anything gets under surface or decays, body or lumph system build a wall around it to block it off from rest of body, this is when bacteria even small amounts in us can grow wild without lymphatic system able to access it and keep in check. Most of time our lymphatic system will send T cell and natural born killer cells to destroy anything detected!!! When immune system down these cells occupied and that is when it may be too late and wall starts to build with inflammation and block it off from spreading. But most of time lymphatic system will remove the waste and bacteria and a lymph node close to area will swell!! This is how our lymphatic system works, I can get technical but simple understanding!!!
Guys sensitive to certain things like prop etc often have immune response and pain is from this response! Like guy with high mg gear his immune response to high mg impaired his lymphatic system to clear a little surface bacteria that got underneath but exactly I don't remember. But most of time once our lymphatic system recognizes something as harmless it stops causing immune response to it, like prop for example. This is real reasoning in my opinion this happens I think the whole crash under surface thing over blamed!! But at same time our lymphatic system can destroy solutions and esters it doesn't recognize as harmless under skin then crash may happen... lol! Hard to explain but interesting to learn!!!
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I know i had one last spring. 4,5 days not much pain but stiffness.Pain jump started around day 6. It went to 10 like that. From my calf to upper quad was swollen and bright pink. If I wqaited another day and it got to the bone the leg was gone.
I told hospital it was from dirty nail at work. The surgeon made a comment that there was something else in my leg that he didnt think was the infection. What it was 3cc of test and trest
Muscle mechanic
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A good practice I use.... i had MRSA several times years ago. Stuff would re-occur if I got any skin break with inflammation now and then!!! I cannot use Bactrim (SMT) on staph or mrsa, I build resistance to it from these infections and too much use. Clindamycin is used now for me with this. Had subacious cyste under arm swell like base ball. Guy at work had MRSA and it got my inflammation area bad!!!
Anyway the good practice I use mrsa free for 8 years is this practice. We all have Staph etc on our skin at all times. To kill it off and prevent infection from injection I take bath a few times a week and add 1 cup Clorox Bleach to water and soak and wash.
Another thing I do is buy Chlorohexidine Anticeptic rinse and wash whole body especially injection areas A few times a week. Let stay on skin around 60 seconds then rinse!!!
These 2 methods rid excess staph and other bacteria even mrsa from our skin. MRSA doesn't do us a thing unless it has access under skin. Staph either, and strep is involved too. When we get a deep tissue infection Staph A., step, and mrsa all have a party in there and MRSA by far most painful thing u can imagine!!! After having MRSA several times I use the 2 practices mentioned to prevent infection. And it is more common when we get any inflammation in an area this stuff can thrive in that pocket that is blocked with thick wall!!
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Anyway the good practice I use mrsa free for 8 years is this practice. We all have Staph etc on our skin at all times. To kill it off and prevent infection from injection I take bath a few times a week and add 1 cup Clorox Bleach to water and soak and wash.
Another thing I do is buy Chlorohexidine Anticeptic rinse and wash whole body especially injection areas A few times a week. Let stay on skin around 60 seconds then rinse!!!
These 2 methods rid excess staph and other bacteria even mrsa from our skin. MRSA doesn't do us a thing unless it has access under skin. Staph either, and strep is involved too. When we get a deep tissue infection Staph A., step, and mrsa all have a party in there and MRSA by far most painful thing u can imagine!!! After having MRSA several times I use the 2 practices mentioned to prevent infection. And it is more common when we get any inflammation in an area this stuff can thrive in that pocket that is blocked with thick wall!!
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Thanks man. Never heard of the bleach thing...sounds extreme!
I had MRSA twice when I was 21. Shit sucked. I can't take bactrim or Keflex (sp?) either because I am highly allergic. Went into anaphylaxis the last time I took them...no fun.
Ironman404
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That sucks man. Where are you pinning?
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I had a bro complain of always getting knots. So, I watched him inject. 25G 1" into glute.
He would go in straight, but slowly the syringe would cant to the side slightly. Also as he depressed plunger to expel the contents, he was pushing harder than necessary and constantly shaking in small amounts.
He was basically causing more damage than necessary.
Especially when you get that cramp when twisting your torso, and have to twist back around to get rid of it, and change injection hand position angle.
When pinning quads, you can see what your doing, no awkward twisting... which is harder for us bigger dudes anyway.
Could be something else though... just a thought. I get it every now and then.
He would go in straight, but slowly the syringe would cant to the side slightly. Also as he depressed plunger to expel the contents, he was pushing harder than necessary and constantly shaking in small amounts.
He was basically causing more damage than necessary.
Especially when you get that cramp when twisting your torso, and have to twist back around to get rid of it, and change injection hand position angle.
When pinning quads, you can see what your doing, no awkward twisting... which is harder for us bigger dudes anyway.
Could be something else though... just a thought. I get it every now and then.
Ironman404
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That makes sense, actually. Never had problems with my quads or delts...because I can see what I'm doing.
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Exactly when muscle cramps and tightens up, 25ga can bend from being so hard to push!!
Hips good and thighs!!
I am not that big, people think I am 225 or more but 5'8" 203 atm short legs longer torso area, wide shoulders. Can't wash back anymore. She has too... lol
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