max mg per ml possible

[Poohbear]

I'm sorry but you are incorrect an androgen receptor is an androgen receptor. It is like a light switch. It is turned on when a hormone attached and turned off when it leaves. Different compounds have different binding affinities but they all attach to the same receptor. Also near 100% saturation of receptors comes in at around 4gms of test.



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I don't totally disagree bro ! 4mgs per body pound per week is the max . We r all different and over 90% of that anabolic or androgen is a waste of money u just puss down the drain.So very high blends r just a marketing thing and a waste of money over 400 mgs. I didn't learn it from a book I've been pinning about 25 years now . No disrepect but science only goes so far u have to learn ur body and taking advantage of people that don't know any better is just wrong just i my opinion.

 

[Poohbear]

I think we wherevkibda saying the same thing but I said compounds instead of anabolic and androgen receptors

 

[Poohbear]

Esters and their free test vs 100mg total weight
Acetate has 87mgs of free test per 100mg total weight
Prop has 83mgs
Enanthate has 72mgs
Cyp has 70mgs
Decanoate has 64mgs.


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So test no ester is 1 for 1 100mgs ?

 

[Chemicallyengineered]

So test no ester is 1 for 1 100mgs ?

Test no ester is 100mgs per 100mgs.


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[Chemicallyengineered]

I don't totally disagree bro ! 4mgs per body pound per week is the max . We r all different and over 90% of that anabolic or androgen is a waste of money u just puss down the drain.So very high blends r just a marketing thing and a waste of money over 400 mgs. I didn't learn it from a book I've been pinning about 25 years now . No disrepect but science only goes so far u have to learn ur body and taking advantage of people that don't know any better is just wrong just i my opinion.

I'm not saying whether the high mg blends are a waste or not but you're body can utilize way more than 880mgs of hormone in a week for a 220lb guy. I've used a gram of test and 1500mgs and 2000mgs and the difference at each level was noticeable. Different amounts of strength increase, appetite increase and also drive. While I will agree, as does the "science" as you say, there are diminishing returns as you go up but there is still a difference. I'll find the research, it's been posted by others on other boards before. Hell if you do 3cc each of prop, tren and masteron you barely stay within that range and that ain't shit. Run each at double that dose and tell me you won't notice a different in the two cycles. Hell you can't even run orals by your math on top of the 3cc of each. I run that plus winny at 50mg ed and halo 10mg ed for a prep. And then you're ancillaries. Shit just the orals and the 3cc of each is 1320mgs per week.


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[Chemicallyengineered]

I don't want to break any rules in case linking to another forum is frowned upon so here is a cut and paste of a simec test on a high mg blend from a well know lab.
http://i.imgbox.com/xuRnmwz2.png


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[Chemicallyengineered]

They have three more tests posted. These products were sent to simec by a customer without prior knowledge by the lab. And even if the lab knew the point is it is possible to break the 400mg/ml guideline.


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[Poohbear]

Okay how 225 mgs of anabolic and 225mgs of androgen come to just 3cc of test ,mast and tren ? I think a good debate is good but me trying to help some one has just got out of hand here . Thanks for posting . Sorry Gman for messing up he forum with this debate .

 

[Poohbear]

They have three more tests posted. These products were sent to simec by a customer without prior knowledge by the lab. And even if the lab knew the point is it is possible to break the 400mg/ml guideline.


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I like this lab ur posting on very much use them all the time ! I don't think the debate was if u could get that much in a mg at all .But if u use over 225 mgs of anabolic or androgen per day u r just pissing down the toilet I don't care who u r .

 

[Chemicallyengineered]

Gotcha, a little miscommunication. At the end of the day our discussion will get others to investigate for themselves and that is a good thing. I appreciate the conversation. We are both passionate about what we do and that is a good thing.


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[Poohbear]

So at what rate does the anabolic and androgen receptors become free ? Is it as simple as the half life of the anabolic or androgen ?

 

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[nyrebel]

So half or over half of your vials were pretty much hormone..1g of raw is equal to 1ml give or take on the raws..and yes variables matter such as carriers and super solvents used. How did the 600mg eq come out if I may ask..thats 6g per 10ml vial!

It's great. Making more tomorrow.


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