Making Transdermal Gear

[hwntime]

I'm not much of a DIY person anymore.

It's easy to make transdermal though; I've made it.
You need a large Pyrex, a stove, phlogel ultra, dmso, and a lot of base powder.

Found my old perfection recipe:

20% DMSO
50% Phlojel Ultra
20% Aloe Vera Hand Sanitizer


Keeping the DMSO that low is key. You don't want the smell, drying, or anti inflammatory action of DMSO.

However, typically no sponsor/source wants to use PhloJel because of the cost.
The next best thing is 70% aloe vera hand sanitizer and 30% DMSO.

All you do is put those three ingredients on very low heat and fold in/mix in your test base powder.

So I’m a bit confused with this recipe; 20% DMSO, 50% Phlojel, and 20% hand sanitizer so what’s the last 10%? If I have 10g of test base powder, how many grams of each compound would I mix in? Also, 30% DMSO? I’ve only seen 99%+ available? Sorry, just a little confused.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

So I’m a bit confused with this recipe; 20% DMSO, 50% Phlojel, and 20% hand sanitizer so what’s the last 10%? If I have 10g of test base powder, how many grams of each compound would I mix in? Also, 30% DMSO? I’ve only seen 99%+ available? Sorry, just a little confused.

I'm quite certain he means 30% by volume, not 30% DMSO
Like with Hydrogen peroxide that comes for first aid wounds etc @ 3 %, food grade is way higher, & can burn your skin z so "Not" in that context.

He's meaning if you did 100 gram batch for instance 50 of it would be Phlo, 20% DMSO , & he may have meant to out 30% aloe sani, as like you discovered z they don't add up to 100, and for the record, you could call the 10 grams if TNE , or whatever hormone approximately 9 grams or less, .88 & .89 by voulme as all powders have different density, hence different "displacement" unless he meant for the missing 10% do be taken by the Raw....?

But I don't think so...!

 

[BobbySweeney]

I'm quite certain he means 30% by volume, not 30% DMSO
Like with Hydrogen peroxide that comes for first aid wounds etc @ 3 %, food grade is way higher, & can burn your skin z so "Not" in that context.

He's meaning if you did 100 gram batch for instance 50 of it would be Phlo, 20% DMSO , & he may have meant to out 30% aloe sani, as like you discovered z they don't add up to 100, and for the record, you could call the 10 grams if TNE , or whatever hormone approximately 9 grams or less, .88 & .89 by voulme as all powders have different density, hence different "displacement" unless he meant for the missing 10% do be taken by the Raw....?

But I don't think so...!

Nailed it. I meant by volume/percentage. Ratios.
Not potency or whatever.

And sorry, the last 10% was apparently me not knowing how to add. It was just more phlogel, bringing it to 60%.

 

[C587]

I had bold base transdermal from endocrine supply that was vascularity in a bottle. Stuff was very cool.

 

[hwntime]

Nailed it. I meant by volume/percentage. Ratios.
Not potency or whatever.

And sorry, the last 10% was apparently me not knowing how to add. It was just more phlogel, bringing it to 60%.

Got it. Thanks for the recipe and clarification. So how effective is this concoction minus the phlojel. I didn’t realize how expensive just a 100g jar of phlojel was. Will the 70/30 sanitizer/DMSO effectively transport through the skin? No need to dissolve powder in isopropyl or anytying prior to mixing?

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Got it. Thanks for the recipe and clarification. So how effective is this concoction minus the phlojel. I didn’t realize how expensive just a 100g jar of phlojel was. Will the 70/30 sanitizer/DMSO effectively transport through the skin? No need to dissolve powder in isopropyl or anytying prior to mixing?

Yates had told me as "little" bezyl benzoate as needed to get hormone dissolved in /on some heat then add. & Yes, the dilution of the DMSO with the other (hand sanitizer ).
I would have to "assume" is to keep.the harshness of the DMSO to a minimum, DMSO can irritate the shit out of your skin, but is a very good medium.to carry stuff across the dermis. How much more effective, or how phlogel works , or it make up..? IDK, but I'd have to give it a go sometime , (unless I'm.shocked out of my mind at price )

I think I have looked it up before, but for me, it's about learning, "and" having an alternative means of delivery.

Ya know, like when someone has to help.me with my "Depends" , lol... J/K (hopefully that's a long ways off ) or
Nevva...!

 

[BobbySweeney]

Got it. Thanks for the recipe and clarification. So how effective is this concoction minus the phlojel. I didn’t realize how expensive just a 100g jar of phlojel was. Will the 70/30 sanitizer/DMSO effectively transport through the skin? No need to dissolve powder in isopropyl or anytying prior to mixing?

It will, you don't need the Phlogel. You can go with hand sanitizer with dmso.

BUT, dmso with phlogel is a lot better for you and a lot more pleasant to use over a month.
DMSO is nasty stuff alone.
I highly recommend using my recipe with phlogel. Just my opinion though. I will note that phlogel only recommends using 15% dmso when you blend the two; the reason my recipe asks for higher is because I heavily concentrate the phlogel with Base powder and the extra dmso helps dissolve and disperse the powder in the phlogel. You don't want gritty phlogel, you want it runny like thin lotion.

Sponsors/sources who make transdermals will almost always use the dsmo plus Aloe Vera hand sanitizer route, no phlogel, because of cost and it's easier to make in bulk. Which is okay, because that combo will give you amazing absorption. It also will stink, is somewhat toxic, and isn't great for your skin. But over 30 days you should be fine.


A 100g jar of phlogel is a lot, that would easily last you a month of almost daily heavy transdermal use.






From their website:

6. Is there any way to increase the absorption rate of PU?

There are both physiological and chemical means to increase absorption rate. These include: a) apply to freshly-washed skin; b) occlude the affected application area, e.g. a bandage; c) add penetration enhancers such as menthol, d-limonene; DMSO up to 15%; add other solvents such as alcohol, propylene glycol, glycerol, transcutol but only in small amounts; if blood levels are required apply the product to an area of the body where the skin thickness is thin, e.g. the wrists, the forearm, behind the ear.

7. Does it help to mix my drug with alcohol before mixing it with PU?

It helps if the amount of drug dissolves. No more than 5% alcohol should be used to incorporate a drug in PU. Generally, the drug can be levigated with PU itself.

 

[Procut]

How about a sponsor that carries just transdermal blends?

 

[Gone]

How about a sponsor that carries just transdermal blends?

exactly...i keep hint it`s coming but no one is listening.

 

[Hevi-head]

exactly...i keep hint it`s coming but no one is listening.

Lol, I’ve been catching the hints

 

[BobbySweeney]

exactly...i keep hint it`s coming but no one is listening.

I caught the hints and I'm a little disappointed at the lack of excitement; we must not have a lot of people who have used high dose transdermal before.

 

[Kins]

I caught the hints and I'm a little disappointed at the lack of excitement; we must not have a lot of people who have used high dose transdermal before.

I used high dose trans-dermals before. It's just a pain in the ass. I guess it's ok if you are really into rubbing yourself though.

 

[BobbySweeney]

I used high dose trans-dermals before. It's just a pain in the ass. I guess it's ok if you are really into rubbing yourself though.

If it's a pita you're using low concentration , low quality runny transdermal.

 

[Yates84]

PLO GEL and you need nadro base not npp

npp works too bro. molecular weight is plenty low enough and it actually mixes better with an ester.

 

[PDO9122]

Can't you just buy Salvo and mix that with the powder?? I guess its more expensive like that though

 

[PDO9122]

I had bold base transdermal from endocrine supply that was vascularity in a bottle. Stuff was very cool.

I was thinking of making a Bold Base Transdermal! How many mg's did you run ED?

 

[C587]

I was thinking of making a Bold Base Transdermal! How many mg's did you run ED?

Brother I think I used 2-3 pumps 2x a day. This was back in 2004-2006. Somewhere in that time period. Not sure on the mg breakdown.

 

[PDO9122]

Brother I think I used 2-3 pumps 2x a day. This was back in 2004-2006. Somewhere in that time period. Not sure on the mg breakdown.

Oh ok. I think it would def be cool to add in 200-300mg/wk of Bold Base, since I'm already on EQ right now. I bet stamina went up ASAP with the Base! I wouldn't mind more vascularity
Was thinking of getting 10-20g of Bold Base and some Salvo

 

[C587]

Oh ok. I think it would def be cool to add in 200-300mg/wk of Bold Base, since I'm already on EQ right now. I bet stamina went up ASAP with the Base! I wouldn't mind more vascularity
Was thinking of getting 10-20g of Bold Base and some Salvo

Ya endurance through the roof man. Still one of my few singular experiences with AAS where I can point instant results to one compound without a doubt.

 

[PDO9122]

Ya endurance through the roof man. Still one of my few singular experiences with AAS where I can point instant results to one compound without a doubt.

Sounds awesome man, I think I'll def have to get some Bold Base. 1st I'm going to make 1-Test Base. And then Test Base and Bold Base.... can't handle Tren but I want to do Tren Base pre-workout so bad lol