Lowest tren dose that achieved good results

[C587]

Well title says it all. I recently tried to use some dred tren e at 400mg WK and the sides killed me. I swore off tren forever but am again romancing the idea. If I go ahead with it I'll run it at 200mg WK this time. Anyone have experience with relatively low dose tren??

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

400 a week is like jumping on a bull and holding on. Run Tren Ace next time, pin everyday (it’s a bitch but it works) so that you have stable levels and start at 200. With Ace you know when it kicks in and you can adjust up or down to find a good balance point. My first run I bumped it 50 mg a week until I started feeling insomnia and night sweets at 350 then dropped it down to 300. Insomnia and night sweats disappeared with 4 days and it was a comfortable experience. Anything less than 200 is a waste. Good luck!


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[Roc]

I hate tren but the last run I did reds tren/prop mix and loved it, I ran it at 1ml a day which was 100tren/100prop, ran it for 4 weeks when the appetite was killed then I dumped it and cleaned out totally. I will say my next venture is with ment and I’m excited to see this compound at work!! I’ve never ran tren less than a 100 a day.

 

[01dragonslayer]

IMO the best way to find your 'sweet spot' with tren is to start low and work your way up. Some cycle tren too high and sides can be harsh. This way by slowly increasing your dose sside effects are much more tolerable. Start low 25-50mg/day and go from there.

 

[Hevi-head]

If you’re not getting any sides you probably won’t get much benefit from it in my opinion.
Tren has sides at an effective dose, That’s just all there is to it. It’s a trade off but but few compounds can give you the results tren can.

 

[Hevi-head]

400 a week is like jumping on a bull and holding on. Run Tren Ace next time, pin everyday (it’s a bitch but it works) so that you have stable levels and start at 200. With Ace you know when it kicks in and you can adjust up or down to find a good balance point. My first run I bumped it 50 mg a week until I started feeling insomnia and night sweets at 350 then dropped it down to 300. Insomnia and night sweats disappeared with 4 days and it was a comfortable experience. Anything less than 200 is a waste. Good luck!

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Everyone is different but 400 a week isn’t too bad for me.
Night sweats and and a little shorter fuse but nothing uncontrollable.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

If you’re not getting any sides you probably won’t get much benefit from it in my opinion.
Tren has sides at an effective dose, That’s just all there is to it. It’s a trade off but but few compounds can give you the results tren can.

Sides yep there are some.
But if I lower test p to 50 a day I can do tren 75-100 without anxiety or mood swings, temper.
550-700wk is what I need depending on tren and other life stress.
Mast helps for me.
I love it most of time.
If i dial things in right it's awesome and when I stop it's like sh8t. No energy!!!

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[Solocom]

I ran it at 30 mg every day, so 210 per week. I saw excellent results from that small of a dose. Given it was DRed's, so we all know the stuff is legit and probably somewhat overdosed.

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[Hevi-head]

Sides yep there are some.
But if I lower test p to 50 a day I can do tren 75-100 without anxiety or mood swings, temper.
550-700wk is what I need depending on tren and other life stress.
Mast helps for me.
I love it most of time.
If i dial things in right it's awesome and when I stop it's like sh8t. No energy!!!

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Lower test can definitely help too

 

[Muscle mechanic]

As said try ace with test p.
For me sides stop with less test reason I like mast for extra free test and androgen binding
I ran tren e years and years but let me tell u what happened.
I met my wife, she triggers all the issues with tren. It makes her so bitchy u can swear she is on it. The tren e builds up and not good.
So I like ace I get levels stable where I can control.
The feeling of wanting it to stop and it don't with e..... not good...

When i lived to train and had no tie downs I never knew what a side was to anything in way of anger fuse. I never even had water retention or edema till later 30s.

I have learned and smarter to my approach to it all. I know my body. It's one thing we Gotta learn with out response slowly!!

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[Pastor]

Am on the same page my brother and starting my preparation for a physique competition , national qualifiers ; this is what am gonna do: 5o mg tren e / week and take it from threre. Am 54, i dont wanna hurt myself

 

[C587]

Guys I agree short esters would be best. That said I'm not gonna do ED injects. I shoot e3d and that seems tedious at times.
[MENTION=4206]Pastor[/MENTION] good luck on your journey, 200mg is IMO the least I'll use...am curious if you notice anything at all at that dose....

 

[joonp]

Ive never used less than 400mgs but i also have never done anything but e. I dont get any sides except sweating. I have however seen many logs where guys have run it at 200 and had good results. Imo you just have to realize that youll see some gains but youre not gonna see as much as say 400 mgs

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[Juggy38]

I do a mix of tren e tren ace so if my dose gets too high and sides suck I can drop the ace and levels fall quickly but tren e less total oil and cheaper
like 200mg tren E with 50mg ace EOD

yiu get too much tren E going and you have to deal with sides for 2 damn more weeks

 

[Hevi-head]

Am on the same page my brother and starting my preparation for a physique competition , national qualifiers ; this is what am gonna do: 5o mg tren e / week and take it from threre. Am 54, i dont wanna hurt myself

I can’t see you even noticing 50 mg per week. You’re pretty much just throwing it away at that dose.

 

[C587]

Next cycle I'm looking at:

200mg tren e
500mg test e
500mg mast e
100mg test suspension , 25mg drol, 25 mg dbol EOD
12.5mg aromasin EOD
.25mg caber 2x wk


Gonna alternate orals 4on 4off throughout using tbol/var...

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I can’t see you even noticing 50 mg per week. You’re pretty much just throwing it away at that dose.

I agree with HH!!

This is mentality that has to come with territory. We gotta be in good health and physically in shape for tren.

The ace version is easy to control sides.
I need at least 50mg a day to see benifits worth it or i can choose another compound! Also the strength and aggressive drive is also a part of what helps us push harder in gym!!

If worried about sides run TRT dose of test.
Work tren ace up slowly. U can back it down. Honestly 50mg a day needed for benifits of tren worthy!!

Tren is not a mass builder at all. It's a clean gain water free fat burning compound!!!

My input is 350mg tren ace needed per week min to get tren benifits!!

Tren e..... better wait till 50-75mg ace a day cool with u.

For myself good old testosterone at high levels gives me the most snap fuse. Speaking of 1 gram week.

With tren I don't have fuse with test Lower.
I like it 75mg tren ace to 75mg prop a day.
But 75 tren to 40-50 prop and I am calm as can be. Also BP issues I only get with water retension. But cardio keeping it up lowers my BP!!

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[Muscle mechanic]

Next cycle I'm looking at:

200mg tren e
500mg test e
500mg mast e
100mg test suspension , 25mg drol, 25 mg dbol EOD
12.5mg aromasin EOD
.25mg caber 2x wk


Gonna alternate orals 4on 4off throughout using tbol/var...

Brother Tren is best to use without aromatase roids!
Estro opens pathway to progest prolactin sides.
Also I believe in androgen binding therory!!
That tren with win at receptor and all other things that aromatase.... they Will.. and mood swings will start!!

Tren is a dry compound that keeps muscles full and holds size when under high stress from training and calorie deficiency.

Anadrol can make some irritable.

For your tren cycle I suggest u run
Trt test for stable levels 150wk
Test prop for control if more test 30-50mg a day
Tren ace 50mg a day work up to 75 if poss

Best way is to do lean bulk with longer esters besides tren.
Switch up after 8-10 weeks to test prop and tren ace. Run that last 6-8 weeks then u get the benifits and move into tren with receptors not fresh!!!

Keep test and tren at 2:3 ratio or
40:65-50:75
Leave all aromatase out!!
U want 1 a test base, 2 your tren and another androgenic, maybe other anabolic like anavar or primo. But no other steroid that aromatases.
Ex.
Test prop 50mg ED??
Tren ace 75mg ED??
Mast prop 100mg ED
Primo 100mg ED or anavar 75mg ED
Adjust your daily tren and prop at that ratio a day. Use 8 weeks
Use lean bulk to get u there and get u prepped for tren.

Tren e only for those who react well and know way around sides.
If i use tren e I would use
Test c 200wk
Tren e 400-500wk enathate ester is less mg of tren by weight
Mast 800wk
If i need more test add in prop MWF and go from there.

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[C587]

I'm probably over thinking it [MENTION=1747]Muscle mechanic[/MENTION]

I might use the test sus/drol/dbol inject only certain workout days so once it twice a WK.

I'd love to run var/primo as you suggested just expensive to run at a good dose. I've never done test lower then tren. May be worth a try.

 

[Rocketfuel]

I’m doing exactly what you suggested, however I’m only taking 50mg of Var everyday, my first time running Var so I figured I could get away with that? Thanks for putting in the time to write all that out. Very helpful bro!