Keto Diet Basics

[Nogichute]

I know Dave Palumbo puts guys on a version of keto, but the protein is very high. I've read about people having good results with Palumbos keto. I'm actually looking to run that in June after the baby is here.

 

[RJ198567]

I know Dave Palumbo puts guys on a version of keto, but the protein is very high. I've read about people having good results with Palumbos keto. I'm actually looking to run that in June after the baby is here.

I’ve done it, it’s basically 2 gs of protein per pound of weight and 1/2 a g of fat per pound of weight and carbs under 50gs a day and mostly just trace carbs.

It works just a lot of Protein


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[Thor80]

A keto diet is well known for being a low carb diet, where the body produces ketones in the liver to be used as energy. It’s referred to as many different names – ketogenic diet, low carb diet, low carb high fat (LCHF), etc.
When you eat something high in carbs, your body will produce glucose and insulin.

• Glucose is the easiest molecule for your body to convert and use as energy so that it will be chosen over any other energy source.
• Insulin is produced to process the glucose in your bloodstream by taking it around the body.

Since the glucose is being used as a primary energy, your fats are not needed and are therefore stored. Typically on a normal, higher carbohydrate diet, the body will use glucose as the main form of energy. By lowering the intake of carbs, the body is induced into a state known as ketosis.

https://www.ruled.me/guide-keto-diet/​

Thanks for the link. Found so much good information on there and a ton of awesome looking recipes that I'll have to try out, especially the pizza ones

 

[Nogichute]

I had to start keto by Dr. recommendation for a rare condition where I have fatty tissue pressing on and in my spine. I thought I had a slipped disc, but the mri showed it was epidural lipomitosis.
It's extremely rare because I'm only 33 am not obese and don't have kushings(?) disease.
I started 4 days ago and am on tren. The main things I've noticed are, absolutely all the negative tren sides no matter how miniscule have vanished. Also all of the inflammation and joint pain I've had have lessened to a large degree.
My protein is higher than before, because I'm cramming down meat and fat every couple of hours in pretty large quantities.

 

[Nogichute]

[MENTION=2910]RJ198567[/MENTION] after a lot of reading, mine is closer online with the carnivore diet.

 

[ketsugo]

Any particular exercises needed for conditioning?


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[Nogichute]

I lift heavy and alternate light (high rep pump work) on certain days. Do fasted cardio and add 5 minutes each week.

Lift 6-7days a week. I just started Friday, but so far I'm fine. Just make sure you salt everything. My 2 protein shakes a day are made with water, coconut oil, butter and salt and 2 scoops of whey isolate.

I believe the only reason you might see a lot of guys that lose muscle or are way too skinny is they don't consume near enough protein.

I'm not tracking macros except protein and making sure carbs below 30grams.
Besides that I'm keeping sodium and fat high and drinking 1-2 gallons of water.
The only time I felt the keto flu was yesterday for a couple of hours until i chugged a sugar free power ade( these are my best friend) lol.

Chicken or beef broth are highly recommended. Any cravings I've had are diminished when I hydrate.
I have a theory that the tren got me into ketosis faster. I may be wrong but I was showing ketosis on the sticks at the end of the first day.

 

[Nogichute]

After reading logs on other sites and people on forums, it seems like there's a ton of fear of consuming too much protein. I've been in ketosis since day one and losing water and fat, but not muscle because I'm consuming 1.5-2 grams of protein a day.
Do not cut protein. With me I've noticed the conversion of protein to glucose isn't as easy as they make it out to be.
I had 170 grams of protein in just one meal yesterday from hot wings and it had no negative effects.
I'd almost recommend upping protein.
I have and I'm gaining strength and workouts are full of energy.

 

[ketsugo]

I’d be leery of too much salt . Usually in no way , especially on AAS should you increase salt. It’s the main cause of water retention that is commonly ignored. I’m personally so anti low carb but that’s just my 30 experience. You need carbs . Most studied are short term . Never in my life even using like anadrol or dbol precontest did I go lower then 80 grams . Maybe during a rotation I’d toss in 30 gram day one week but I’ve trained and seen too many guys flat or water logged from no carb high salt etc. long term it just not good .


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[Nogichute]

On keto your body doesn't retain water or sodium well.The salt intake is necessary. I've been on keto for 7 days and have done it before several times, once for an entire year.
Each time, I've had a dramatic and very fast improvement in overall health. Lowered blood pressure and better cholesterol.

I blast and cruise, so I don't come off. I ran anadrol 150 a day with test at 750 a week with high salt intake when i did keto for a year and my blood pressure was perfect with no water retention. I'm on Tren now and my blood pressure has gone from pre hypertension to perfect in the past 7 days.
I am recommended by my Dr. to stay on keto long term for epidural lipomitosis. It's been about 2 years since I was last following the diet, because I love carbs.
I don't think they are evil or any food is inherently bad.
Im not saying it's the end all be all, one size fits all magic diet. However, if you do it right and can handle it then it's definitely a viable option.

I respect your opinion brother and don't mean to come across as disrespectful or argumentative. if I do in this post I apologize. it's hard to convey tone and meaning in text. Again, I respect you and this board. I've gotten a ton of insight and help from reading things you've posted.
Keto can definitely make you flat, and I've seen guys on stage that it ruined.

Just stating my thoughts and experience. I'm always open and willing to learn.

 

[Nogichute]

Keto long term study showing many benefits.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/

 

[JoseMP]

So postworkout meals make no sense then? If I eat small portions of rice and beans post workout along with my beef or chicken would that stop ketosis?


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[Nogichute]

Look into a tkd keto diet. Otherwise I'm doing fine with no carbs. No strength or endurance loss. Just fat loss and gaining strength.