IGF levels the key to growth ??

yatyas314

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So over the last year there has been more and more hgh testing becoming available and our general understanding of HGH is getting better and better. For instance we as a community have started testing batches of GH to see where the batch scores with serum levels and after much debate the model of testing protocal is pretty much standard. Now HPLC testing is available and being used as well to see how pure the GH is. Another and I believe more interesting test is the igf level test which is a time weighted average of your igf levels. So some folks in the community are testing their igf levels while taking diffrent AAS and showing the diffrence ...drastic diffrence between a healthy liver converting GH to IGF to a beat up liver.


SO what does all of this mean. To me I am taking all these streams of info and have come to the conclusion that the healthier you can keep your liver the more prolific the effects of GH will be. I am testing this theory with my liver values and lowering my test and androgen levels and seeing if I can keep a higher sustained igf level by keeping a healthy liver.

bottom line is we pay a fucking lot of money for growth and if your liver is struggling because your running too much gear ( which in the bigger picture is cheap) why are you wasting yur money and time on GH ?? when it seems that all the info is pointing to a mixture of both in moderation and some liver supplementation is the key to optimal enviroment to grow more muscle tissue.

I am currently running a little expirement with myself I am using 750mg of test and 300 mg tren a week with 1/3 a bottle of blacks so roughly 4iu GH
1ml pharm glutathione
5 ml synthergine (260lbs)
european milk thistle
tudca
and NAC

after about a week i have put on 3 lbs which is an indicator off higher igf (water retention) hands are feeling like im taking a whole vial a day
so this is all to say that if you use gh the money you save by buying the liver supps is much cheaper than just pushing more gh into a batered liver.

I will chime in on the thread once a week and get my blood done at the end of my run and see if the numbers add up.

thoughts are apprecited
Y
 
We have talked about this for awhile bud and I will say we are on to something, after I did that intense liver detox, chemicals were hitting me like a freight train as you know, and now that I have been taking more care of the liver I feel much better for one and I say it's from the synthergine, tudca, and thistle. I am curious to see how you make out with the lower doses as we r both big mg runners.
 
just hit 260 and am feeling lean and healthy, and can wait to see where it takes me

260 lbs heh JarHead..? Sweet, your a "Big" dude for sure,
Congrats, keep it up brother...!
Semper Fi.

~ MCMM
 
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