How much is enough or to much

[Kx450f]

Ok so I'm 40 years old 6 foot 1 in 260 pounds
im doing 600 ml tren e and 900 test e
this is my second cycle and I'm thinking of
going to 900 tren and 1500 test
I want big gains fast lol but me friend says 600 tren is the ceiling
and do not go above that does anyone have experience with this
i really don't have any negative side effects except a little
more aggression but not to bad lol
do I guess I'm asking what's the max thanks in advance

 

[suraonyx23]

Dude 2nd cycle and your running doses that high? Not good. At 6'1" 260 what is your body fat percentage?


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[Poohbear]

Yea , don't waste it gear brother if ur making gains at lower dose do too u need to go up !! Then are some really high doses I've been pinning 25 years and don't run doses that high!! It just wasting it money brother . if I eat right and workout on lower doses u will gain !!

 

[Poohbear]

Okay one more question no sides from 600mgs of tren ? Who's gear u running ?

 

[spyderwebb]

Ok so I'm 40 years old 6 foot 1 in 260 pounds
im doing 600 ml tren e and 900 test e
this is my second cycle and I'm thinking of
going to 900 tren and 1500 test
I want big gains fast lol but me friend says 600 tren is the ceiling
and do not go above that does anyone have experience with this
i really don't have any negative side effects except a little
more aggression but not to bad lol
do I guess I'm asking what's the max thanks in advance

If u r going to run the tren that high make shure u get kidney support like cranberry extract and drink a shit load of water... but 900 I think is too much... again I ran 600 tren ace for 3 weeks and my kidney values went up... had to lower it... and also is the gear that u have legit...? because a lot of times it's underdosed... I personally don't think you need that much hormones to get good results fast... if u want size fast then add droll 50 to 75mg Ed at the start for 4 weeks...


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[Kx450f]

Vvl gear

 

[suraonyx23]

What's your body fat percentage?


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[noworries301]

Not trying to hijack or contradict anybody but second cycle at those numbers of properly dosed gear is really a lot of gear.
IMO totally not necessary if training and diet are right


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[Poohbear]

I would seriously think that 600 mgs of tren would give some sides no matter who ubr brother .

 

[Kx450f]

I'm not sure what my body fat percentage is
but it sounds like I should stay where I'm at and not
increasing my doses
also vir vires lab is quality great

 

[Kx450f]

Well it's been 4 weeks and no real sides

 

[suraonyx23]

I'm not sure what my body fat percentage is
but it sounds like I should stay where I'm at and not
increasing my doses
also vir vires lab is quality great

Umm body fat plays a tremendous role! If you're out of shape and have high fat percentage adding that much tren is going to stress your heart out even more than it already is. My guess is your body fat percentage is low to mid 20s. And besides those dosages are not smart simply for the reasons of your a newbie and your knowledge isn't ready for it. Do some more research


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[Poohbear]

Not question anybody's quality but I run 700mgs of tren and the sides are there and I have been pinning 25 years and luv me some tren brother !! The dose ur taking about are in the pro level !! Just be careful getting big isn't worth diying for !!

 

[spyderwebb]

Ok so I'm 40 years old 6 foot 1 in 260 pounds
im doing 600 ml tren e and 900 test e
this is my second cycle and I'm thinking of
going to 900 tren and 1500 test
I want big gains fast lol but me friend says 600 tren is the ceiling
and do not go above that does anyone have experience with this
i really don't have any negative side effects except a little
more aggression but not to bad lol
do I guess I'm asking what's the max thanks in advance

If I were u I would throw in some dbol or droll that would give u size fast... have you taken orals b4? And do U get high blood pressure? I know when I run tren my blood pressure goes higher...


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[Gymjunkie38]

I run ridiculous amount of tren but the sides are still there but I also have been doing this for years and my receptors are shit I blast more than I cruise I'm numb too shit . but your second cycle you should be gaining like crazy . also a lot of the reason your not having bad sides is you higher test dose I run tren in the offseason with NPP and a gram of test I feel great . but during prep when I'm on close too a gram of tren and 200 mg of propionate I'm a angry fuck that can't sleep sweats constantly and is really only happy when its time too eat

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[noworries301]

I would seriously think that 600 mgs of tren would give some sides no matter who ubr brother .

I second that thought


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[Gimmetest]

More is not always better.


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[01dragonslayer]

More is not always necessarily better. You do have to consider cycle exp, size, age, and particular goals for your next cycle but if gains are still improving at lower or current doses there would be no need to up your doses.

 

[Kins]

I run ridiculous amount of tren but the sides are still there but I also have been doing this for years and my receptors are shit I blast more than I cruise I'm numb too shit . but your second cycle you should be gaining like crazy . also a lot of the reason your not having bad sides is you higher test dose I run tren in the offseason with NPP and a gram of test I feel great . but during prep when I'm on close too a gram of tren and 200 mg of propionate I'm a angry fuck that can't sleep sweats constantly and is really only happy when its time too eat

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GJ, I thought the opposite was true. Just because I've read a lot about peoples tren runs and a lot guys say "low test, high tren". Thought the reasoning was that you will get less sides from the tren that way..I've also read, "Tren works better with a lower dose of test". I'm not experienced with Tren so that's why I'm asking. Anyone else reading this, what is your reasoning for "low test, high tren"?. This is the first post I've read from an experienced guy like you that says high test with high tren.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

GJ, I thought the opposite was true. Just because I've read a lot about peoples tren runs and a lot guys say "low test, high tren". Thought the reasoning was that you will get less sides from the tren that way..I've also read, "Tren works better with a lower dose of test". I'm not experienced with Tren so that's why I'm asking. Anyone else reading this, what is your reasoning for "low test, high tren"?. This is the first post I've read from an experienced guy like you that says high test with high tren.

The results from tren with lower test are much better less water hard dry look and the tren takes over also why the sides are worse much worse . with higher test there is still some estrogen and also some of that feel good sensation going on but you don't get that hard tren look as easily . so higher test less sides . lower test better results but you will feel it. Make sense

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