HGH after one week

[Gymrattt1]

For most people taking deca the compound doesn't really shine under 16 weeks. It would be a waste to run deca for 12 weeks or under. Is there any sminos supplements or anything from the pharmacist on this board that would keep your kidneys even Steven ? I drink a ton of water daily I sure that helps quite a bit

Correct 134 obout deca (nandrone) needing to be ran longer, but nandrolone in the NPP ester is 100% FINE if a bb has no kidney problems, which will easily be determined by blood work (GFR), NPP will start working immediately an a 6 to 8 weeks is plenty of time to gain additional mass and strength Unfortunately there isn't any way to improve kidney function, using detox supplements will help you with detoxing the entire body, and the herb dandelion root is in often recommended by herboligist for the kidneys. Kidney function is a bb most important medical problem because it cannot be reversed by medical science or any known treatment, a bb must monitor kidney disease throughout his anabolic usage from start to finish. Steroid abuse without yearly blood work (best every 6 months) is a bad scenario for an undisciplined bb running gear and will ultimately be faced later in life. A bb with healthy kidneys NPP is 100% fine and will provide excellent results in 6 to 8 weeks with a short ester, I relied on nandrolone (npp) or nandrolone base throughout my IFBB professional career for my mass cycling protocol and without question short esters and base compounds were responsible for me reaching 320 lbs, I'm 42 years old now and still 282 at the moment around 12%, Short esters are far more effective regarding anabolic's but just need to be monitored by regular blood work and a knowledgeable approach to using gear.

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[Gymrattt1]

Look what I found:

https://www.facebook.com/1489030561398999/posts/2008825546086162/

Good find, end very intriguing, it needs researching to determine the validation of the medical science behind the product, if proven to be valid this would be valuable asset in the arsenal of a bb. I'm wondering what the test would cost????

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[Quix99]

Good find, end very intriguing, it needs researching to determine the validation of the medical science behind the product, if proven to be valid this would be valuable asset in the arsenal of a bb. I'm wondering what the test would cost????

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palumbo is selling them. On his show he said he bought all the kits

 

[Quix99]

So regarding receptors, is there a chart to look at regarding % of binding by compound? So if we go off the basic math you provided for the eq vs tren, one must wait close to 6 months to go on tren again, same as a 19-nor. I really have no want to run tren again as dht compounds do more for me and i dont have those sides to deal with.

 

[Gymrattt1]

Good find, end very intriguing, it needs researching to determine the validation of the medical science behind the product, if proven to be valid this would be valuable asset in the arsenal of a bb. I'm wondering what the test would cost????

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palumbo is selling them. On his show he said he bought all the kits

Awesome, Dave and his wife are very good friends with me and my wife, I'll give him a call soon, thanks

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[1977_Corvette]

Correct 134 obout deca (nandrone) needing to be ran longer, but nandrolone in the NPP ester is 100% FINE if a bb has no kidney problems, which will easily be determined by blood work (GFR), NPP will start working immediately an a 6 to 8 weeks is plenty of time to gain additional mass and strength Unfortunately there isn't any way to improve kidney function, using detox supplements will help you with detoxing the entire body, and the herb dandelion root is in often recommended by herboligist for the kidneys. Kidney function is a bb most important medical problem because it cannot be reversed by medical science or any known treatment, a bb must monitor kidney disease throughout his anabolic usage from start to finish. Steroid abuse without yearly blood work (best every 6 months) is a bad scenario for an undisciplined bb running gear and will ultimately be faced later in life. A bb with healthy kidneys NPP is 100% fine and will provide excellent results in 6 to 8 weeks with a short ester, I relied on nandrolone (npp) or nandrolone base throughout my IFBB professional career for my mass cycling protocol and without question short esters and base compounds were responsible for me reaching 320 lbs, I'm 42 years old now and still 282 at the moment around 12%, Short esters are far more effective regarding anabolic's but just need to be monitored by regular blood work and a knowledgeable approach to using gear.

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Mind detailing some of you cycles in your pro days?

 

[Gymrattt1]

Oh yea, no problem 77, would love to and I have some awesome stories about bb you would love to hear, I'll try to get you some cycle examples soon, but go check out the AAS AND T4 thread, give some background on my career from early on and my involvement in the sport from a villains perspective, lol

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[Gymrattt1]

So regarding receptors, is there a chart to look at regarding % of binding by compound? So if we go off the basic math you provided for the eq vs tren, one must wait close to 6 months to go on tren again, same as a 19-nor. I really have no want to run tren again as dht compounds do more for me and i dont have those sides to deal with.

Another excellent question brother, I'll look back into my medical books and see if I can get some receptor binding % for you, and at minimum you must wait 6 months with a 19 nor compound , but as I outlined in the AAS AND T4 thread I believe, I explain why you want to wait at least a year between using a 19 nor compounds. Because of the high binding affinity of 19 nor compounds which ultimately determines the strength of a compound that will ultimately be its own downfall, because it attaches with the most powerful bind and is preferred by the receptor it will downgrade the fastest and the body actually gets addicted so to speak and it will lose effectiveness, meaning just like drug abuse (cocaine and opiates) they body will not react to the dosage, so a back to back cycle of nandrolone or trenbolone is not a good idea because the body will recognize the compound and the 19 nor compounds will be at least 50% or lower in effectiveness, always use a different base compound every cycle to confuse the receptor.

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[Quix99]

Yea i remember you stating that, and swapping it for a dht as well. My 2nd cycle was tren, test and proviron. Was amazing. I hit the tren again a year later, and i didnt have close to the same reaction. Was from same vendor, and bought at the same time. I feel i have probally messed up this past 18months or so and not given the receptors their time off.

 

[Gymrattt1]

Yea i remember you stating that, and swapping it for a dht as well. My 2nd cycle was tren, test and proviron. Was amazing. I hit the tren again a year later, and i didnt have close to the same reaction. Was from same vendor, and bought at the same time. I feel i have probally messed up this past 18months or so and not given the receptors their time off.

Yep that's what happened, but the good news is that you are learning proper protocol and can greatly improve your cycling techniques thru knowledge my brother. The best is yet to come.

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[BobbySweeney]

Good find, end very intriguing, it needs researching to determine the validation of the medical science behind the product, if proven to be valid this would be valuable asset in the arsenal of a bb. I'm wondering what the test would cost????

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The company is run/owned by William Llewellyn. Author of Anabolics 1-11.
He’s stated a few times that he stands behind these tests, for whatever that’s worth. He’s pretty active online.

 

[Gymrattt1]

The company is run/owned by William Llewellyn. Author of Anabolics 1-11.
He’s stated a few times that he stands behind these tests, for whatever that’s worth. He’s pretty active online.

Yep, William Llewellyn is the man, he is a original guru like Daniel duchane, and ameen ali, I memorized every single word of both there books and based my concepts on their theories, ameen and I introduced Dan duchane to Rick conti and Patrick Arnold they developed the designer drug DESOXYMETHYLTESTOSTETONE) (DMT), also known as phera today a pro hormone, it had a similar effect as my designer steroid a deso dehydro nandrolone compound that I developed for the Olympic athletes in a nasal spray which could be transported thru customs and would pass the gas chromatography test. William is very very knowledgeable and respected in the bb community.

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[BobbySweeney]

Yep, William Llewellyn is the man, he is a original guru like Daniel duchane, and ameen ali, I memorized every single word of both there books and based my concepts on their theories, ameen and I introduced Dan duchane to Rick conti and Patrick Arnold they developed the designer drug DESOXYMETHYLTESTOSTETONE) (DMT), also known as phera today a pro hormone, it had a similar effect as my designer steroid a deso dehydro nandrolone compound that I developed for the Olympic athletes in a nasal spray which could be transported thru customs and would pass the gas chromatography test. William is very very knowledgeable and respected in the bb community.

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I’ve never chatted with William but Patrick Arnold was a lot of fun 15 years ago. Talked to him for years when he used to hang out on Par Deus’ forum.
I’m sure you remember “The Clear” scandal.

 

[Gymrattt1]

Yeah, I agree cool dude, I was sorry to see all the shit happen to their operation and the media totally destroy them in the balco scandal, I went through the same thing years later when I was busted operation gear grinder in 2005, I was fortunate to have walked away with probation with all the charges thrown at me, my case didn't have any media publicity, thank God.

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