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[HoRRoRT]

So I didn't want to say anything but I have been struggling to put muscle on lately, I have struggled with opiates in earlier life and now I'm on methadone, and ever sense I been on methadone it seems no matter what I do I cant put on size or muscle, I have great genetics I used to be able to put size on so easy. I feel like even with gear it isn't helping can anyone help me understand if the methadone is doing this or was it the effect I took my body threw with addiction? I have been struggleing trying to read and get info but its the same old shit and I'm still confused why its so difficult when it used to be so easy and now I struggle with blood pressure I mean holy shit

 

[Kins]

I have no clue about this. I'd just be googling it. On the blood pressure thing, a lot of people are ignorant when it comes to blood pressure and think blood pressure is all weight related. That is wrong. It could just be genetic. There are ultra-marathon competitors that have high blood pressure. Get to the doc and they may put you on some medication for blood pressure. Oh yeah and go donate blood. That will only help temporarily though and is not a solution, but it's something that you should be doing if you run AAS...Regularly, and as often as they let you. Sorry Horrort. Wish I could help you out more.

 

[HoRRoRT]

Its ok kin!! I'm just thankful you gave a go at it haha, how could you not know what methadone is its been around sense world war 2 hehe

 

[CRC1276]

I know for a fact that Methadone makes it harder for your body to absorb vitamins and minerals. Now with that said maybe it does that to other things as well. I also know it does lower your body's own test levels. I think when your on meth you have to raise levels of gear your using as opposed to when your not. Just my guess. I know for example since it lowers you own test that running 500 mg of test might not be as useful as let's say 700 or 1 gram. This is just my personal opinion bro. But again some of it is from experience. Same with nutrients from foods. Your body won't absorb as much. Now don't think you can't put on a lot of muscle cause you can. I know I have. And I was on Methadone for a little bit myself bro. I think it also depends on your dose. Being on 100mg of done would be harder to make gains than let's say 50mg. Is that making sense? Again this is just what I went through a while back.


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[HoRRoRT]

All of it makes sense brother thank you, It def lowers your test, I'm at 65 mg needing to get off but shit scares me with work and such, when I think of doubleing the test I feel its safer to get of methadone and use a safe amount of test rather then killing myself over time!!! if you don't mind me asking how did you get yourself of done?

 

[CRC1276]

Bro don't rush it though. You have to come off when your ready. And only you know that man. It's better than active addiction bro. I was on the clinic and I just went down like 5 every few weeks. Make sure to go nice and slow. You don't wanna start feeling like shit and then forget it.


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[HoRRoRT]

How long where you on it? and be honest sense your off it how does life feel ? are you a lot happier ?

 

[Stretchdoeswork]

How long where you on it? and be honest sense your off it how does life feel ? are you a lot happier ?

I was never on methadone but back in the day I was using the hard stuff and coming off with subaxon(spell check). It finally got to the point where i had to stop all. Been clean now off that for almost 7 years. Is it tough? Yes. Way worth it though. You can do it.


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[ketsugo]

So I didn't want to say anything but I have been struggling to put muscle on lately, I have struggled with opiates in earlier life and now I'm on methadone, and ever sense I been on methadone it seems no matter what I do I cant put on size or muscle, I have great genetics I used to be able to put size on so easy. I feel like even with gear it isn't helping can anyone help me understand if the methadone is doing this or was it the effect I took my body threw with addiction? I have been struggleing trying to read and get info but its the same old shit and I'm still confused why its so difficult when it used to be so easy and now I struggle with blood pressure I mean holy shit

I don't thnk its the methadone, I honestly believe its just a common issue we all face- YOU ARE NORMAL ! There was period in 2000s where I had 6 orthopeadic surgeries so for 6 years straight I was prescribed opiates 160 mg day yes you read that right of OxyContin and my workouts were the best in my entire life an oxy with an ephedrine and I would tear it up in the gym in the dojo all fucking day 2 hours in the am gym then intervals of all kinds of martial arts for rest of day as around the same time my job was at a half way house while I was in college and my job was to sleep then wake up cook and administer psyche meds - so I had all day to train best days of my life. I did later ask to go on suboxone and took 9 months to be back to my normal self. Funny when I was to cease the pain meds , I knew nothing of withdrawals- there is no greater hellish experience then goig off those meds , even the subs were hard - luckly for me BB and MA were my life and being able to train was everything to me That was like years ago but all good now- well other then the blood cancer I recently been diagbosed considered " Treatable" yet there is no tx LOL you draw blood and take thinnners forever

AT SOME POINT WE GET OLD OR FEEL OLD LOL , OUR INJURIES CATCH UP OR OUR BODIES ARE AT THEIR POTENTIAL- LIKE I ALWAYS COACH KIDS TO WAIT AS YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR BODY TO ITS POTENTIAL NATURAL FIRST OR YOU RISK FUCKING UP YOUR CYCLE EFECTS LATER

 

[HoRRoRT]

So doing gear at a early age and pro hormones could have fuck myself over ? Thank you all for the help and advice def help to now there are others

 

[CRC1276]

How long where you on it? and be honest sense your off it how does life feel ? are you a lot happier ?

I was on it for 3 years or so. Maybe a few months longer. And I've been off and away from hellish junk for over 10 years brother. It definitely feels better being off. But like I said only when you know your ready man. Don't go off for anyone else either. I struggled for a few years man. Going on and off cause I wasn't doing it for me.


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[2redstars]

I am an addict. in recovery now, been clean going on 7 months this time. methadone is worse than any street drug, as far as what its doing to your body and mind. its one of the hardest things to get off of, and without caution, you can kill you if you don't taper off correctly. ive done everything to stop using. suboxen got me off opiates, was shooting 10-15 30's a day, sometimes more. shooting coke has always been my devil, its been the hardest thing to kick. I started reading books by Marc Lewis phd. he's a neuroscientist who was also an addict. knowing the science behind addiction helped me a lot. its not a disease, its a learned behavior that changes the way your brain functions. your brains only function is to find instant gratification, you constantly live in the moment. that's why youll get moments of clarity, where you consciously know you need to stop, even tell yourself to stop. but the subconscious brain takes over and has to get that fix. your synapses are so narrowed, nothing else matters. the only way out of it, is to completely separate yourself from all forms of instant gratification. which is hard now days. the world is based around it, your phones, energy drinks, smoking, sex, masturbation, fast food, etc. once you get some time away from the madness, you have to start retraining your brain. start developing long term goals again, broaden your synapses, so there is other avenues of thought and subconscious function. you have to get to a point where can envision a future self that is a functioning, responsible member of society. once you can see yourself, you work everyday to become that person. its not easy, the brain is very tricky, like I said ive done everything to quit using, treatment centers, na, self will, moving, even trying to commit suicide. the problem with all that is none of it empowers yourself. you are the only one that can change, yes, you can get help and support, but until you can commit to growing as a person, you will never get away from the instant gratification of todays society.
I'm almost 7 months clean, I don't go to meetings, I still don't carry any cash or have access to it. I'm starting to trust myself, but I have to have walls in place, I have to be open about my thoughts, I have to make sure every decision will lead me to that future self, the person I want to be.



http://www.salon.com/2015/06/27/add...ge_our_minds_on_the_roots_of_substance_abuse/

yes, I realize the irony of this being written on a steroid board. lifting can be a good median of daily gratification, with the focus on long term goals.

I also smoke weed now, at night. its the one thing ive done different this last 7 months. I was never a smoker, so I think that matters a lot. for me its a way to calm the obsessive and compulsive thoughts that creep up. and its not a secret, my wife knows, so no more secrets.