Helios or clen
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Injectable Helios?
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Yes the yohimbe mix.I'm thinking I should save that for later when I experience some clen.before I start injecting it.or is it cleaner to inject like less shaking and more fat burning.
Gold Fin
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It will help with spot reduction, but only if you already have very low BF% already. I hate the way Clem makes me shake & feel, but if it doesn't do that, it's not working. I pin the Helios first just to get my tolerance up for the 100mcg pills. I only like 40mcg at one time while I'm at work.
I've got about 150 Clen tabs I'm debating what to do with. If I decide to trade them it will be for a vial of Prop. I'll hit you up if you need them.
I've got about 150 Clen tabs I'm debating what to do with. If I decide to trade them it will be for a vial of Prop. I'll hit you up if you need them.
ketsugo
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Helios actually has clenbuterol in it. I been using Clen ephedrine for almost 30 years and personally don't effect me . However many complain of jitters and rapid heartbeat when first try . If you are one of those I suggest you try pill form initially - Clen yohombine extract etc see if you body can hack it. If it does you will also feel like you could lift a train and run a marathon - I aiways use more so to have intense workouts at 5am every day . So yes try Clen first for tolerance - trust me it will work.
One tip is a certain percentage of gents on Clen cycle get painful muscle cramps . So take extra care to hydrate , magnesium ect. It works best if you cycle it 5 days on 2 off for 4-6 weeks then go off maybe try thyroid and ephedrine for few weeks then go back on . I get cramps and over years I go 2 on 2 off and minimizes my cramping as I'm very prone to major cramps
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Clean had never helped u lose any body fat?
ketsugo
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Clean or Clen ? I been bodybuilding for 32 years ate clean whole life and alwAys lean . To me like to see fibers on each muscle . Started using chemicals in mid 30s I find clean to aiwAys be the main method - Clen and AAS support your efforts and eating habits
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Fuck my life for spell check
Clen big home clen. Lmao
ketsugo
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Add: I've not actually competed in long time ( cuz I hate it) but Clen and ephedrine I used more for energy . Clen t3 are good for hindering water weight . Prefer personally ephedrine over Clen , my leanest ever my main compound was dbol- mostly cuz no matter how hard I dieted or trained dbol allowed me to teeter on over training . Between bodybuilding and bujutsu , Kali since young child usually train 2-4 hours now but age 17-30 when I travelled to Asian countries to train , between gym and dojo my days were 8-16 hours like I was in olimpics lol not to mention i was in services for 10 years too. Food and training are the cornerstone . Yet I advocate aas and chemicals as I could not train at my she with out! I personally don't see taking roids as " cheating " like ignorant public believe . They obviously have no idea that using drugs to train to me make diet and the science of training more imperative . Yes they work but to get the most out of them you need to have diet and training intact . Most all of us here know workout ain't just lifting and lowering a weight - it's duration under tension , volume , intensity , mental focus . However I do use Clen and have been fan for decade. I think we all must find our own path to within our selves . While drugs have base effect on all, we all respond somewhat different . Ok sheesh sorry I'm on tangeon lol
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ketsugo
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Lol I'm far worse lol just tell me to STFU lol
