HCG questions

[Big Beef]

What is your guys' protocol with hcg on cycle? I feel like my biggest mistake I've made in my 3 cycles I've done, is not use hcg while I'm on. Luckily, my natural test seems to still be good, but I don't want to press my luck. I've done my research, but I feel better getting advice from you all.

How many days a week? What dose each day & total iu per week? How many weeks? If it's a long cycle, should it be ran consistently or for a few weeks & than back on again?

 

[Muscle mechanic]

What is your guys' protocol with hcg on cycle? I feel like my biggest mistake I've made in my 3 cycles I've done, is not use hcg while I'm on. Luckily, my natural test seems to still be good, but I don't want to press my luck. I've done my research, but I feel better getting advice from you all.

How many days a week? What dose each day & total iu per week? How many weeks? If it's a long cycle, should it be ran consistently or for a few weeks & than back on again?

It's used throughout cycle 2x week pin days can be pinned in pin with gear
250-400iu 2x week
Stop hcg 4-5 weeks before pct!!

That is it!!!

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[Muscle mechanic]

No more than 500-800iu per wk.
Some may say more but not necessary
Lots of studies and true use on TRT by Dr's online

Careful too much can increase estro

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[Big Beef]

No more than 500-800iu per wk.
Some may say more but not necessary
Lots of studies and true use on TRT by Dr's online

Careful too much can increase estro

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That sounds accurate compared to the research I read. I always keep an ai on hand for estro. Throughout cycle or start about 3-4 weeks in with hcg? Is there a max amount of time you should run it?

 

[HoRRoRT]

Dang thats way diffrent then i read muscle. I read to take the hcg weeks or months before coming off and continue taking on pct!! doing your way have you noticed any shrinkage?

 

[Big Beef]

Dang thats way diffrent then i read muscle. I read to take the hcg weeks or months before coming off and continue taking on pct!! doing your way have you noticed any shrinkage?

Thanks bro for the input. Yeah, I noticed a little. Mainly after this last cycle. I feel like I did before, but nuts don't seem quite as big as before, to be completely honest. Just wanting to prevent my boys from shrinking more than they need to on this next cycle.

 

[HoRRoRT]

Def don't take what I read !!! internet anyone can write what they feel works for them!! I just know I fucked myself at a young age taking all kinds of spawn, M1T, superdrol, tdrol prohormones and not doing any type of pct after thinking cause there not roids!! and I don't feel like my boys have ever completely came back even after like 5 years of not doing anything !!! just all you new guys plz plz be smart and take care of your boys cause they well disappear and not return!!

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Guys check out the video I posted of Dr. Rand giving HCG recommendations in the PCT forum.

You can go as high as 500iu ED, but 500iou EOD for 3-6 weeks prior is normaly recommended for guys coming off TRT. Apparently 500iu in a day is about the highest useable amount you can use without spiking estrogen too much, etc.

Personally I recently did 500iu for 3 days in a row and it made my nips sensitive. A little aromasin cured it, but I'm down to 500iu EOD now anyhow.

 

[Big Beef]

Def don't take what I read !!! internet anyone can write what they feel works for them!! I just know I fucked myself at a young age taking all kinds of spawn, M1T, superdrol, tdrol prohormones and not doing any type of pct after thinking cause there not roids!! and I don't feel like my boys have ever completely came back even after like 5 years of not doing anything !!! just all you new guys plz plz be smart and take care of your boys cause they well disappear and not return!!

Kind of in the same boat. Everything seems good, except a slight size difference in the size of my boys.

 

[Big Beef]

Guys check out the video I posted of Dr. Rand giving HCG recommendations in the PCT forum.

You can go as high as 500iu ED, but 500iou EOD for 3-6 weeks prior is normaly recommended for guys coming off TRT. Apparently 500iu in a day is about the highest useable amount you can use without spiking estrogen too much, etc.

Personally I recently did 500iu for 3 days in a row and it made my nips sensitive. A little aromasin cured it, but I'm down to 500iu EOD now anyhow.

I will check it out tonight & let ya know what I think. Thanks.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

New research shows hcg
Is only good to keep batteries in low charge while truck parked in shed!!
It's stopped before pct because it is false signal, a mimicker of LH to stimulate testes!! BUT NOT TO STIMULATE LH IN PITUITARY!!
Hcg is suppressive to natty LH production and WILL stop recovery by being "suppressive"

Hcg can be used to start up a dead system in attempt to start back testes that haven't produced like a 5 year cycle or TRT with clomid.
But it is not for start up if used on cycle.

Used on cycle keeps testes producing gear got u shut down with neg feed back so hcg suppression not a worry.
Then it's stopped 4 weeks before so LH and FSH can be stimuted with Clomid and nolva. Not suppressed!!

Hcg doesn't cause more LH, it sends mimicking false signal that neg feedbacks on its own.

We want hcg on cycle to keep testes fresh
And before pct let clear and then stimulate Clomid nolva!!!

250-500iu 2x wk all that is needed!!!

Trt not same in TRT it's to keep testes from shutting down and keep production of other hormones DHEA, PREGENOLONE, ETC.....

I am correct fellas research out there.
And some Dr's practice different protocols
But a few of them online I trust like the one u know... X-Files name.. lol

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[Big Beef]

Guys check out the video I posted of Dr. Rand giving HCG recommendations in the PCT forum.

You can go as high as 500iu ED, but 500iou EOD for 3-6 weeks prior is normaly recommended for guys coming off TRT. Apparently 500iu in a day is about the highest useable amount you can use without spiking estrogen too much, etc.

Personally I recently did 500iu for 3 days in a row and it made my nips sensitive. A little aromasin cured it, but I'm down to 500iu EOD now anyhow.

I watched it. Interesting to hear his thoughts on hcg & the other stuff too.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

New research shows hcg
Is only good to keep batteries in low charge while truck parked in shed!!
It's stopped before pct because it is false signal, a mimicker of LH to stimulate testes!! BUT NOT TO STIMULATE LH IN PITUITARY!!
Hcg is suppressive to natty LH production and WILL stop recovery by being "suppressive"

Hcg can be used to start up a dead system in attempt to start back testes that haven't produced like a 5 year cycle or TRT with clomid.
But it is not for start up if used on cycle.

Used on cycle keeps testes producing gear got u shut down with neg feed back so hcg suppression not a worry.
Then it's stopped 4 weeks before so LH and FSH can be stimuted with Clomid and nolva. Not suppressed!!

Hcg doesn't cause more LH, it sends mimicking false signal that neg feedbacks on its own.

We want hcg on cycle to keep testes fresh
And before pct let clear and then stimulate Clomid nolva!!!

250-500iu 2x wk all that is needed!!!

Trt not same in TRT it's to keep testes from shutting down and keep production of other hormones DHEA, PREGENOLONE, ETC.....

I am correct fellas research out there.
And some Dr's practice different protocols
But a few of them online I trust like the one u know... X-Files name.. lol

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Dr Scully

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[Muscle mechanic]

Dr Scully

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"Dr Micheal Scally"
Lmao!!


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[Argon Coagulator]

New research shows hcg
Is only good to keep batteries in low charge while truck parked in shed!!
It's stopped before pct because it is false signal, a mimicker of LH to stimulate testes!! BUT NOT TO STIMULATE LH IN PITUITARY!!
Hcg is suppressive to natty LH production and WILL stop recovery by being "suppressive"

Hcg can be used to start up a dead system in attempt to start back testes that haven't produced like a 5 year cycle or TRT with clomid.
But it is not for start up if used on cycle.

Used on cycle keeps testes producing gear got u shut down with neg feed back so hcg suppression not a worry.
Then it's stopped 4 weeks before so LH and FSH can be stimuted with Clomid and nolva. Not suppressed!!

Hcg doesn't cause more LH, it sends mimicking false signal that neg feedbacks on its own.

We want hcg on cycle to keep testes fresh
And before pct let clear and then stimulate Clomid nolva!!!

250-500iu 2x wk all that is needed!!!

Trt not same in TRT it's to keep testes from shutting down and keep production of other hormones DHEA, PREGENOLONE, ETC.....

I am correct fellas research out there.
And some Dr's practice different protocols
But a few of them online I trust like the one u know... X-Files name.. lol

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Right, HCG just resensitises your testis to LH. But when you come off HCG you should be able to produce LH much easier than if you hadn't used it. Clomid may speed up this process.