Dallas Mccarver Steroid Cycle

[Ricnixon]

Either it was fake or he didn't run it long enough. I've heard of great size gains with the Test500/EQ500mg combo. Takes forever to really kick in but when it does it's nothing but solid slabs of mass. Picture a lean race horse with big, vascular thigh muscles- that's basically what EQ does to most animals, horses, dogs, humans, etc. Just gotta be patient with it and get it from a good source.

I’ve never had much luck with eq. In fact it’s always a disappointment with me. One of the few compounds that gave me acne in weird places. Maybe I never gave it a chance. Never went further than 12 weeks. Gotta say tho.....I prefer primo, npp, and tren.

 

[Ricnixon]

Agreed, and the Horse analogy..., Think about it..,. Is why I eat alot of Oats..., On the cycle, I plan 25 weeks minimum, and overlapping the final.5 with Primo @800 at least.

We shall.see, and for me ,I'm.still working.on "regained" Mass, and relying on."Muscle Memory" as I.used to be 240

Primo!!! My shit!!!

Dreds primo is legit. Watch your hair!!!!!! Lol

 

[neo1]

Have to be honest with yourself, "are" you truly eating enuff, and water intake is crucial. I do not consistently take in enuf water (2gals a day minimum, I used to) now, gmhalf to 1, and I know what I need to do, I drink way too much coffee & not enuff h2o .

I used to out a gallon away at work, and a gallon+ between the drive, and home life, water was always at my side, always I still to this day carry a gallon of distilled water every where, or there's one in my car. But I just don't remind myself or forget, or coffee is taking g it's place too much.. very, very key, you don't even have to be thirsty to be in a state of dehydration . And, it affects performance too.

MotorCity

Same here, esp being on dbol right now i need to drink more water. My urine does get dark sometimes. I read that distilled water is actually isn't healthy because it lacks minerals from the distillation, so it can leach minerals from your bones.

 

[neo1]

Well, the thing is I don't really believe in "Muscle Memory" the way "bodybuilders" do. A lot of guys seem to confuse "muscle memory" with getting back to the same strength or being the same strength as you were when before you took the layoff. Or something of that nature. I don't believe that. Muscles shrink and you are gonna have to work just as hard to make them bigger again and to get stronger again as if you were at that level in the first place.

"Muscle memory" is when you first start doing a movement or exercise and are learning the technique, after a while of doing, say so many years your brain, not your muscles remember how to do it, so it's like second nature. You could take a lay off for years and you'd be able to do that same exercise or motion very easily again because your brain remembers how your body did it before. Just like when riding a bike, if you rode a bike when you were a kid, say 12-15 years old and stopped riding at 17, say now your are 50 years old, your brain would remember how your body did it, so you would not have to re-learn. Muscles can not think.

Idk i always get back to my size/strength in 1/4 the time it took me to first gain it, but then again I haven't hit any huge numbers yet.

 

[ladykilla]

Yeah, but no one in their right mind should take the advice or following dosing of a "pro"...I mean, hell look at the thread you are in!. I've never ran EQ myself, and was recently deciding on getting some EQ or NPP because I have not tried either. I decided on EQ. "Pro's opinions" shouldn't mean jack sh*t and from what I've read should be avoided unless you want to end up in an early grave for the sake of "DaGainz". Also, it could be that a lot of EQ is fake or just low dosed test and your source was crap.

Why I stated studies AND opinions from pros/competitors that have done many cycles. Like I said bro, not to offend at all. Do what works for you. That is why I asked you if it was your first cycle of it, and as I suspected you said yes. By all means, if you can gain muscle and be 240lbs like me without having to do heavy doses, do it. I started way to young, but it has given me the ability to do a great amount of trial and error. EQ is a love it or hate it very weak steroid. That is a factual statement. It is why people run it for long periods of time. It is not a Tren or an NPP/Deca. I was going to say grab you some NPP, but you already stated that you were considering the two.

EQ is also rarely faked because it is a very cheap raw to obtain and it is unmistakable due to its constant oil like consistency in raw state (if you brew yourself)

The reason I was saying about the dosage is because of how weak it is. I have run it at 500mg all the way up to the 1200mgs as I stated and saw almost no difference in the drug. You do that with a more androgenic/anabolic compound and EQ is very weak in comparison. No need to get defensive as that is what these forums are for is for us to help each other out. If one thing works for you, then share it! Happy gains to you brother and I hope you gain 20lbs of solid muscle from your cycle! Get Huge!

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Same here, esp being on dbol right now i need to drink more water. My urine does get dark sometimes. I read that distilled water is actually isn't healthy because it lacks minerals from the distillation, so it can leach minerals from your bones.

The distilled water thing, is a fallicy , it's the absolute cleanest (4-12 ppm ) h2O you can consume.

Alot of the trace minerals and what our bodies need, are mostly devoid because of modern agriculture methods.
So, essentially you can't leach what isn't there. So, really the only way to get them is thru supplementation, or growing "all" your own crops with "proper" crop rotation.
Adding back into the soil, what's been depleted. ( It's way too much too fully explain here, but if you know a thing or two about big brother, and the push to micro-manage farmers back in the day, and employ their modernistic methods. ( See, it's All about $$$ ) . I'll tell you this much, with regard to what I'm saying. During, and after world war two there was an abundance of some of the major components to make munitions, and explosive's NPK

Nitrogen,. Phosphorus, and Potassium. Then they discovered that they could grow big, bountiful veggies, crops with just these three components, vegetables on Roids if you will.., well, guess what the human body needs more than just those three, and if it's not in our produce, (I'm not saying it's "all" missing, nor that every crop grown is like this, people are catching on, and finally so is some higher ups, it is getting better, the good insurance way is to take a good multi vitamin, and mineral supp, or grow your own, the right way. You can supplement with swa kelp, and a good athletes pack, and I don't mean Centrum either ( garbage ) GNC's mega Man is decent, I use Beverly International's Super Pak, I would say the ones by Universal Monster Pak,. Is good too..!

Anyhow, with regard to the distilled water, it's those things that come out of the water supply and left behind in the boiling tank of the distiller that you *don't* want in your body flourine, flouride and whatever else your municipality is "not" Getting out of it. I have my own distiller and it does 5gals every boiling cycle, ( bout 12-13 hours and i could show you the shit that comes out every cleaning.

2-12 ppm clean ( whistle clean ) and refreshing , I cant stand tap water if I drink it.

MotorCity

 

[Kins]

Why I stated studies AND opinions from pros/competitors that have done many cycles. Like I said bro, not to offend at all. Do what works for you. That is why I asked you if it was your first cycle of it, and as I suspected you said yes. By all means, if you can gain muscle and be 240lbs like me without having to do heavy doses, do it. I started way to young, but it has given me the ability to do a great amount of trial and error. EQ is a love it or hate it very weak steroid. That is a factual statement. It is why people run it for long periods of time. It is not a Tren or an NPP/Deca. I was going to say grab you some NPP, but you already stated that you were considering the two.

EQ is also rarely faked because it is a very cheap raw to obtain and it is unmistakable due to its constant oil like consistency in raw state (if you brew yourself)

The reason I was saying about the dosage is because of how weak it is. I have run it at 500mg all the way up to the 1200mgs as I stated and saw almost no difference in the drug. You do that with a more androgenic/anabolic compound and EQ is very weak in comparison. No need to get defensive as that is what these forums are for is for us to help each other out. If one thing works for you, then share it! Happy gains to you brother and I hope you gain 20lbs of solid muscle from your cycle! Get Huge!

It wasn't meant to be defensive. Not my first rodeo but I haven't tried EQ myself. Just put in an order and was going back and fourth deciding between NPP and EQ. You think NPP is a better deal?. They are the same price, and I could always email the guy and change the order if it's not too late. Question does NPP have to be run EOD?.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Idk i always get back to my size/strength in 1/4 the time it took me to first gain it, but then again I haven't hit any huge numbers yet.

Check this, ( although I used to be 241 ) two year ago, I was 148 (6' 1 1/2 " ) yes, paltry, crack head looking..! Not that I was on Crack, depression, drinking etc Training took a back seat for too long. And lost "all" my gainz. Right now I am 203 lean a fuck, and haven't even begun Training legs. When I do, look out..!

Now when I got back at it two years ago I had been back up to as much as 217 in less than 6 months.. ( that's muscle memory ) Colarado Experiment { Casey Viator }

Look it up, Arthur Jones conducted it with him, as his Model specimen, to market his newly invent Nautilisine of Training equipment..

And I will be in a very competitive stage condition by April /May , probably a Classic Physique contest in either PA, or West Virginia ( National Qualifier ) shredded, and at least
215 lbs Veiney & Grainy .

MotorCity

 

[Kins]

Dang NPP could get kind of expensive if it's normally run close to as high as EQ...

 

[ladykilla]

It wasn't meant to be defensive. Not my first rodeo but I haven't tried EQ myself. Just put in an order and was going back and fourth deciding between NPP and EQ. You think NPP is a better deal?. They are the same price, and I could always email the guy and change the order if it's not too late. Question does NPP have to be run EOD?.

I like NPP every other day, but I am a big proponent of keeping blood levels stable even with long acting esters. That being said, the majority of people run it every 3rd day.

Not trying to sway you from trying EQ, just giving you my view from what I have seen, tried, read, been around. If you want to try it, go for it. You can make gains from it at 250mg, it will just be very minimal and very slow. I knew a guy that ran it year round at a low dose even while he was cruising. Guy was a solid rock. Personally, I do think the NPP will give you the better bang for you buck depending on what you are going for.

If you are in this for the long run and plan on continuing to cycle, try the EQ, then run the NPP later. Like I said, you will only know what works for you if you try it. Good luck with it man!

 

[Ricnixon]

It wasn't meant to be defensive. Not my first rodeo but I haven't tried EQ myself. Just put in an order and was going back and fourth deciding between NPP and EQ. You think NPP is a better deal?. They are the same price, and I could always email the guy and change the order if it's not too late. Question does NPP have to be run EOD?.

I know you didn’t ask for my opinion Kins but I’ll give it and maybe it helps you decide. Npp is better and yes eod is when I saw the best results. But I’ve never ran it longer than 6.5 weeks. I blast really short periods. Works best for me.

 

[neo1]

The distilled water thing, is a fallicy , it's the absolute cleanest (4-12 ppm ) h2O you can consume.

Alot of the trace minerals and what our bodies need, are mostly devoid because of modern agriculture methods.
So, essentially you can't leach what isn't there. So, really the only way to get them is thru supplementation, or growing "all" your own crops with "proper" crop rotation.
Adding back into the soil, what's been depleted. ( It's way too much too fully explain here, but if you know a thing or two about big brother, and the push to micro-manage farmers back in the day, and employ their modernistic methods. ( See, it's All about $$$ ) . I'll tell you this much, with regard to what I'm saying. During, and after world war two there was an abundance of some of the major components to make munitions, and explosive's NPK

Nitrogen,. Phosphorus, and Potassium. Then they discovered that they could grow big, bountiful veggies, crops with just these three components, vegetables on Roids if you will.., well, guess what the human body needs more than just those three, and if it's not in our produce, (I'm not saying it's "all" missing, nor that every crop grown is like this, people are catching on, and finally so is some higher ups, it is getting better, the good insurance way is to take a good multi vitamin, and mineral supp, or grow your own, the right way. You can supplement with swa kelp, and a good athletes pack, and I don't mean Centrum either ( garbage ) GNC's mega Man is decent, I use Beverly International's Super Pak, I would say the ones by Universal Monster Pak,. Is good too..!

Anyhow, with regard to the distilled water, it's those things that come out of the water supply and left behind in the boiling tank of the distiller that you *don't* want in your body flourine, flouride and whatever else your municipality is "not" Getting out of it. I have my own distiller and it does 5gals every boiling cycle, ( bout 12-13 hours and i could show you the shit that comes out every cleaning.

2-12 ppm clean ( whistle clean ) and refreshing , I cant stand tap water if I drink it.

MotorCity

"Mineral Deficiencies. Drinking distilled water robs your body of its natural source for many minerals essential to good health. This results in mineral loss in the body with increases your risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, hypertension, coronary artery disease and premature aging." - taken from Livestrong.com

I hear you brother, I'm all for clean, pure water. I drink mostly Ph balanced water like Nestle or Essentia. I believe there are also mineral packs you can buy to add into your distilled water. You don't want your bones to be robbed of calcium- that's one mineral that gear helps you retain so you may be alright.

 

[Kins]

I like NPP every other day, but I am a big proponent of keeping blood levels stable even with long acting esters. That being said, the majority of people run it every 3rd day.

Not trying to sway you from trying EQ, just giving you my view from what I have seen, tried, read, been around. If you want to try it, go for it. You can make gains from it at 250mg, it will just be very minimal and very slow. I knew a guy that ran it year round at a low dose even while he was cruising. Guy was a solid rock. Personally, I do think the NPP will give you the better bang for you buck depending on what you are going for.

If you are in this for the long run and plan on continuing to cycle, try the EQ, then run the NPP later. Like I said, you will only know what works for you if you try it. Good luck with it man!

You are confusing me a little bit with the guy that is running the EQ right now. I've just got an order in for some and have never tried it before but it seems like something I would like because of the low side effect profile. Plus the fact that according to bloodwork I'm slightly anemic. So I don't know, maybe I should just keep my order the same. Gotta at least try it and see what happens.

 

[Kins]

I know you didn’t ask for my opinion Kins but I’ll give it and maybe it helps you decide. Npp is better and yes eod is when I saw the best results. But I’ve never ran it longer than 6.5 weeks. I blast really short periods. Works best for me.

What dosage did you run it though?

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

"Mineral Deficiencies. Drinking distilled water robs your body of its natural source for many minerals essential to good health. This results in mineral loss in the body with increases your risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, hypertension, coronary artery disease and premature aging." - taken from Livestrong.com

I hear you brother, I'm all for clean, pure water. I drink mostly Ph balanced water like Nestle or Essentia. I believe there are also mineral packs you can buy to add into your distilled water. You don't want your bones to be robbed of calcium- that's one mineral that gear helps you retain so you may be alright.

That's why I say I use the Athletes Pak (Super Pak ) from
Beverly, will look into what your referring...!

Livestrong I'm a subscriber too,. Good info's on alot of things, I get. Their e~mail newsletter.

Kudos brother.....! MotorCity
To "our" Good Health...!

 

[ladykilla]

You are confusing me a little bit with the guy that is running the EQ right now. I've just got an order in for some and have never tried it before but it seems like something I would like because of the low side effect profile. Plus the fact that according to bloodwork I'm slightly anemic. So I don't know, maybe I should just keep my order the same. Gotta at least try it and see what happens.

My bad man, been a long day. Yes, if you are anemic it will raise your hematocrit levels which would be a good thing for you. Still keep an eye on it though because you don't want your blood to get too thick. You can start out low on the EQ and move up with it since it is so mild, but you would still be fine to start in the 600mg range. Like I said, first time I ran it was double that and everything checked out ok.

 

[Ricnixon]

What dosage did you run it though?

I’m a low dosage guy as I’m sure you have heard me preach. I start at 350mg a week and on the tail (last 3weeks) I end at 300mg.

Just FYI I cruise at 180mg a week. 100mg cyp and 80 test ace. I blast at 3-400mg.

 

[Kins]

I’m a low dosage guy as I’m sure you have heard me preach. I start at 350mg a week and on the tail (last 3weeks) I end at 300mg.

Just FYI I cruise at 180mg a week. 100mg cyp and 80 test ace. I blast at 3-400mg.

I actually think I'm gonna stay with the EQ for now. Seems like it might stack well with Mast E, and some Test E for a nice long slow steady gains with relatively low bloat and water weight gain. Definitely will try NPP in the future though. Besides order is all in and everything anyway. So next time for sure will get some NPP.

 

[neo1]

That's why I say I use the Athletes Pak (Super Pak ) from
Beverly, will look into what your referring...!

Livestrong I'm a subscriber too,. Good info's on alot of things, I get. Their e~mail newsletter.

Kudos brother.....! MotorCity
To "our" Good Health...!

I eat the chewable Mega Men's but I should invest in a higher quality like Bev (Francis?) Multis.

 

[neo1]

I’m a low dosage guy as I’m sure you have heard me preach. I start at 350mg a week and on the tail (last 3weeks) I end at 300mg.

Just FYI I cruise at 180mg a week. 100mg cyp and 80 test ace. I blast at 3-400mg.

Hell yeah I'm on Test E 100mg eod and my delts are already getting juicy. Them stable blood levels tho!