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Yeah i noticed id run em together tho

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That is a whole different ballgame all together, and it never even crossed my mind because I was always told it was a really bad idea running them both together on all the other boards that I have been on prior. Why would you suggest to go that route?
 
That is a whole different ballgame all together, and it never even crossed my mind because I was always told it was a really bad idea running them both together on all the other boards that I have been on prior. Why would you suggest to go that route?
Synergy...and its individual response man, for some they get deca dick some get bad sides on tren.some dont gey anything..i dont remember if this is your first cycle or not, i wouldnt reccomend running tren and more than test on it if it is your first but who am i to say...i ran high dose deca tren and test my first cycle...it was dumb cause on test alone the gains would have been there but i was inexperienced and dumb. Tren flatens me a bit so i use deca or npp (alot better) to give fullness and joint support..i also like to have less chemicals in the start and as the last weeks approach add the heavier compounds to aid and to avoid hitting plateaous or diminished results..i think kickstarting is a bad idea..thats just my bro science, i think it works man it took a while..next thing im trying to check on is going low test and letting other compounds do the work

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And right now im on 800 deca 700 tren 600 test...sides is some water and minor irritability for me

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Synergy...and its individual response man, for some they get deca dick some get bad sides on tren.some dont gey anything..i dont remember if this is your first cycle or not, i wouldnt reccomend running tren and more than test on it if it is your first but who am i to say...i ran high dose deca tren and test my first cycle...it was dumb cause on test alone the gains would have been there but i was inexperienced and dumb. Tren flatens me a bit so i use deca or npp (alot better) to give fullness and joint support..i also like to have less chemicals in the start and as the last weeks approach add the heavier compounds to aid and to avoid hitting plateaous or diminished results..i think kickstarting is a bad idea..thats just my bro science, i think it works man it took a while..next thing im trying to check on is going low test and letting other compounds do the work

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This is definitely NOT my first cycle and I am many others behind me including Tren Ace, Tren E, Deca, NPP and others. I have never really had big issues on any of them except for Deca Dick at higher levels, but a nothing a little Cialis along with some good Mary Jane couldn’t handle. Just never did both of them together because I was always don’t not to it because it would be a issue. I am older too and not power lifting as I have prior, so not sure if it is worth it but guess I could always drop one of them. My cycle now is looking like:

100 Test A (EOD)
100 NPP (EOD)
100 Mast P (EOD) First Time for Me
Proviron 50md (ED)
HGH 2iu (ED) Just jumping on it too.

I was than planning on dropping the NPP half way and replacing it with Tren A at the same level to finish. Adding in the Tren A to seems a bit insane, but something to think about. I also grabbed some Test W/O ester to run PW to try for the first time too. Have suggestions on dose and timing with it? Been on TRT for a bit but been out for about a month due to shit I already explained and I am definitely feeling it. However, I have DRED hooking my ass up soon :)
 
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This is definitely NOT my first cycle and I am many others behind me including Tren Ace, Tren E, Deca, NPP and others. I have never really had big issues on any of them except for Deca Dick at higher levels, but a nothing a little Cialis along with some good Mary Jane couldn’t handle. Just never did both of them together because I was always don’t not to it because it would be a issue. I am older too and not power lifting as I have prior, so not sure if it is worth it but guess I could always drop one of them. My cycle now is looking like:

100 Test A (EOD)
100 NPP (EOD)
100 Mast P (EOD) First Time for Me
Proviron 50md (ED)
HGH 2iu (ED) Just jumping on it too.

I was than planning on dropping the NPP half way and replacing it with Tren A at the same level to finish. Adding in the Tren A to seems a bit insane, but something to think about. I also grabbed some Test W/O ester to run PW to try for the first time too. Have suggestions on dose and timing with it? Been on TRT for a bit but been out for about a month due to shit I already explained and I am definitely feeling it. However, I have DRED hooking my ass up soon :)
I think the tren ace is always a great addition depending on the sides you get. You get clean gains..dont know how sustainable but clean. As far as weed goes it does affect prolactin but if you havent had any sides with it why fix it. This time if you do get npp dick or something you can always hit caber and see what happends cause for some people it works.
What kind of test base youre running water base? Ive read some new studies where they mention test suspensions might have a longer half life then previously thought because of crystal size etc but thats for water base.
I personally use 50 to 100mg pre on non injected (saurdays wed) days when running long esters but the shit aromatises like crasy

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I think the tren ace is always a great addition depending on the sides you get. You get clean gains..dont know how sustainable but clean. As far as weed goes it does affect prolactin but if you havent had any sides with it why fix it. This time if you do get npp dick or something you can always hit caber and see what happends cause for some people it works.
What kind of test base youre running water base? Ive read some new studies where they mention test suspensions might have a longer half life then previously thought because of crystal size etc but thats for water base.
I personally use 50 to 100mg pre on non injected (saurdays wed) days when running long esters but the shit aromatises like crasy

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I am going to be doing DRED's Test Base, and I will think about possibly adding in the Tren A and see how I react to it. Great info and I really appreciate all the advice.
 
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