Coming off 8 month cylce!! Help with pct !!!! Please!!!!

[RealKattMiefer]

Has anyone done long cylces this like this???
Ok Guys... Here is the gist of the situation:
I started a 12 week Test E only cycle back in September 2017 at 500mg a week split into two 250 mg doses on Mon & Thurs. After those 12 weeks i then "cruised" for 4 weeks at 250mg per week of test E only then upped the dose again to 500mg a week as i began a 12 week cutting cycle and this time added 50mg a day of anavar oral for 6 weeks

Im coming to the end of my cycle and i look great and im stronger than ever. Its been a great ride and ive enjoyed the benefits and i have a new found greater respect for the game, but i know i fucked up staying on & being shut down for so long.
I want to come off and level out and be my "normal" self for awhile and maybe work on having a baby with the lady after summer. Maybe down the line after a couple kids ill get back on but right now relying exogenous substance to regulate my main hormone for male function just isnt for me. No disrespect to you bad-asses who have committed for life.

I didnt use HCG throughout my cycle.. Yes im well aware now that was foolish. I have minor testicular atrophy, probably 25-30% at most. Nothing TOO noticeable- the lady hasn't said anything however i know my nuts and i know they're not the big plump eggs they once were lol. I recently picked up a bottle of 5000 iu HCG and have done 3 500 iu blasts so far.

My plan to come off:
taper down the test E dose over 4 weeks at 250, 200, 150, & 100 mg and blast 1000-1500 iu HCG each week, --Do i really need to taper or can i just call it a day after blasting this past Monday (2 days ago?) SO MUCH conflicting info on the net
Wait 14 days after my last test shot then begin a 6 week PCT below:
Clomid 100/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20
enhanced athlete test booster (used it during pct on my first cycle. Could be placebo, but i felt it gave me good sense of well being and helped with erections and pumps)
Viagra or Cialis when the lady is feeling frisky
Get blood work after 6 weeks

Bros please give me your opinion on my PCT and any suggestions you have to make this better. I know im probably gonna crash hard after being on for so long but im hoping that since this was only test e (no other compounds) and 6 weeks of anavar orals that getting my hpta back online shouldn't be a problem.
Im only 30 years old and this is only my 2nd cycle. Im hoping my age (Still fairly young...) and 2nd cycle will work in my favor

Any suggestion you guys have for the best recovery will be greatly appreciated !!!!
I have used these boards many times to obtain knowledge and you guys are definitely the best around. I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT!!!

 

[01dragonslayer]

Your plan looks good. There are many alternatives to PCTs.

Taking novadex20mg/day and clomid100mg/day for 2 months.


Another:
40mg nolvadex per day for 3 weeks. Then 20mg for final week (40/40/40/20)

50mg clomid per day for 3 weeks. Then 25mg for final week (50/50/50/25)

2500iu HCG shot 1x per week for 4 weeks.

I don't mean to confuse you but hey key is once your done, or during, getting blood work done.

 

[conductingchaos]

I wouldn't continue to take HCG once you start clomid therapy. From my understanding, HCG can desensitize the testes to regular LH and FSH. Definitely use it in the last few weeks leading up to PCT but I don't use it during.

Depending on what AI you used, the nolva could be unnecessary. I believe it's mainly used to prevent estrogen rebound but if you were using exemestane (Aromasin) on cycle, that shouldn't be an issue. I use it the first week or two as a precaution and then just clomid until 6 - 8 weeks and blood work comes back normal.

and I don't see any point to tapering test e. Your natural production is already shut down so you'll be starting at zero regardless. Rather than taper test e, I'd switch to low TRT dose prop until you feel comfortable the HCG is getting things rolling again.

 

[RealKattMiefer]

Bro i greatly appreaciate your insight!. I was using aded .25 EOD. once i started the HCG i upped it to .5 EOD cuz i started to feel some sensation in my nips. I was gonna run the HCG up until my last shot then stop it all together at the last show cuz i know i dont wanna run HCG during PCT and while the Test ester clears. I cant get any prop right now unfortunately. Thank you for clearing up the taper issue. I was very confused on that.

 

[RealKattMiefer]

i greatly appreacte it dude! Thank you!!

Your plan looks good. There are many alternatives to PCTs.

Taking novadex20mg/day and clomid100mg/day for 2 months.


Another:
40mg nolvadex per day for 3 weeks. Then 20mg for final week (40/40/40/20)

50mg clomid per day for 3 weeks. Then 25mg for final week (50/50/50/25)

2500iu HCG shot 1x per week for 4 weeks.

I don't mean to confuse you but hey key is once your done, or during, getting blood work done.

 

[Shoulderday15]

Im still in trial and error with pct but I was shutdown for like a year this last cycle I did I ran hcg the whole cycle and towards the end is when I could feel that things had turned back on but crashed after I stopped using it so I did an 8 week pct ran clomid 100 100 66 66 33 33 33 33 and nova 40 40 40 20 20 20 20 20 (enhanced athlete stuff is dosed at 33mg/ml) Thought things were going good for the first 4 weeks then my workouts starting turning to shit was losing strength and was drying out my joints were hurting and I couldn't get a pump to save my life I added d aspartic acid and that helped me not feel like dog shit so much but my workouts were still shit so I started taking arachidonic acid and it turned everything around I can get good pumps again strength went almost back to where it was when I was on and I feel almost as good as when I was on so for me the arachidonic acid has been a life saver for my workouts during Pct and just helping me get through the recovery. Right now I've been off cycle for 11 weeks been off Pct for 2 weeks and
I was 196 to 198 when my cycle ended and right now I'm 193 and starting to feel normal again.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Brother, you just have to face it- no matter what you take it's not going to be a pleasant experience. I did a ten week test cycle then cruised for a month on test prop and clomid and am now doing test and deca. I'm going to start doing 500iu HCG shots here and I already know life's gonna suck for a few weeks when I finally come off.

 

[Roc]

I stay on till I feel like crap and my body tells me it needs a break. I run high mg, and always stop cold turkey, wait 3 weeks and bang 500 hcg every 3 days for 6-8 weeks, clean out, run my liver detox and get blood work done. Clomid has you feeling like crap while the hcg freshens you up. Good luck

 

[Shoulderday15]

For my next cycle im gonna try seth Rodriguez advice on hcg during cycle and a shot of triptorelin at the end and see if it works for me I've heard from people it works and others say it didn't so only one way to know for sure lol

 

[Argon Coagulator]

For my next cycle im gonna try seth Rodriguez advice on hcg during cycle and a shot of triptorelin at the end and see if it works for me I've heard from people it works and others say it didn't so only one way to know for sure lol

His YouTube channel got deleted, but yeah he has a good point, but I feel he uses astronomical amounts of HCG something like 1000iu eod all year long. I've been told that a 500iu shot periodically is all you need to kick start your hpta. Whenever you feel like you need it.

 

[Shoulderday15]

The video I saw was 500iu Monday Wednesday Friday. I did that protocol on my last cycle and it definitely got me turned back on I did some research and some of the doctors said 500iu eod wouldn't cause any desensitization for long periods of time so hopefully they are right lol

 

[Shoulderday15]

I cant say for sure if using less is just as effective I haven't tried less yet but I may just to see if it works and it would be nice to know so i don't have to use so much