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[Quix99]

Thanks bro!, I've been at bb for over 20 years now former NCP USA champion and IFBB pro, when I first learned about the Ketogenic diet I like was like SEARIOUSLY I CAN EAT WHAT??, no more dry as chicken beast and plain rice, thank you God, my wife and I are both cardiologist so we eat pretty good!!

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Hey whats your opinion of bcaa on keto? I did keto a few yrs ago for about 8 weeks, and was usin a preworkout with bcaa in it. Struggled to lose the fat, then dropped the pre and went to a vaso based pre. If i remember rght i dropped 3%bf that week. Think its due to insulin release due to the leucine?

 

[Gymrattt1]

Wanted to comment on this, I'm very much a keto dieter but I do a much higher protien diet than researchers say. My protien is probably higher than my fats. Don't keep track but I eat a ton of protien. Wanted to comment on your statement on fructose and maltodextrine. I find that even if I consume (SOME) of these simple sugars it does not kick me out of ketosis nor raise insulin as I monitor myself daily. Not saying it's not possible to do that but my body responds extremely well to Keto and I've never had an issue at all

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99, I'm over the guidelines myself, but not that much, I'm aware of excessive protein conversion into sugar, and stay at 1gram per pound of lean body weight. 99 are you sure that you stay in ketosis brother because maltodextrin causes a 200%i insulin spike. I was involved in multiple clinical studies in college and maltodextrin was the variable that was used because of the high insulin spike (highest of any food), in all our studies, your blessed if maltodextrin does not have any effect on your insulin.

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[Gymrattt1]

Wanted to comment on this, I'm very much a keto dieter but I do a much higher protien diet than researchers say. My protien is probably higher than my fats. Don't keep track but I eat a ton of protien. Wanted to comment on your statement on fructose and maltodextrine. I find that even if I consume (SOME) of these simple sugars it does not kick me out of ketosis nor raise insulin as I monitor myself daily. Not saying it's not possible to do that but my body responds extremely well to Keto and I've never had an issue at all

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99, I'm over the guidelines myself, but not that much, I'm aware of excessive protein conversion into sugar, and stay at 1gram per pound of lean body weight. 99 are you sure that you stay in ketosis brother because maltodextrin causes a 200% insulin spike. I was involved in multiple clinical studies in college and maltodextrin was the variable that was used because of the high insulin spike (highest of any food), in all our studies, your blessed if maltodextrin does not have any effect on your insulin.

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[Sharks1989]

99, I'm over the guidelines myself, but not that much, I'm aware of excessive protein conversion into sugar, and stay at 1gram per pound of lean body weight. 99 are you sure that you stay in ketosis brother because maltodextrin causes a 200%i insulin spike. I was involved in multiple clinical studies in college and maltodextrin was the variable that was used because of the high insulin spike (highest of any food), in all our studies, your blessed if maltodextrin does not have any effect on your insulin.

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Yes sir 100% And it's a possibility that the reason I do is because I supplement on berberine daily. That will keep your insulin levels low even with consuming high amounts of sugar or carbohydrates. I use a ketone monitor and I've tested myself over and over whenever I do eat something with high fructose in it and has never once kicked me out. I can't say that this would be true for everyone because everyone's body is completely different but for myself it does not kick me out. But when I do have fructose it's not like I eat it all day long it's one meal so that's another possibility

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[xxplosive]

I don’t know what’s more impressive, 286 at 11% or that goddamn day of eating. Well done my man, that’s the way to do a keto diet!


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#Realtalk lol

 

[Gymrattt1]

Hey whats your opinion of bcaa on keto? I did keto a few yrs ago for about 8 weeks, and was usin a preworkout with bcaa in it. Struggled to lose the fat, then dropped the pre and went to a vaso based pre. If i remember rght i dropped 3%bf that week. Think its due to insulin release due to the leucine?

Very good question, leucine does cause an insulin spike both from acute and chronic effects by suppressing atp. All the clinical studies that I have read show bcaa's in a fasted environment are muscle preserving and have definite effects on fat loss, possibly due to the effects on m-tor and atp. I believe that they are fine with keto and leucine is absolutely essential for muscle growth. I also use leucine with keto successfully.

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[xxplosive]

Yes sir 100% And it's a possibility that the reason I do is because I supplement on berberine daily. That will keep your insulin levels low even with consuming high amounts of sugar or carbohydrates. I use a ketone monitor and I've tested myself over and over whenever I do eat something with high fructose in it and has never once kicked me out. I can't say that this would be true for everyone because everyone's body is completely different but for myself it does not kick me out. But when I do have fructose it's not like I eat it all day long it's one meal so that's another possibility

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I have this stuff called RPG, it's a carb shuttler/nutrition partitioner that helps with insulin... Has Berberine among a bunch of other ingredients.

Can i use that or beberine while going keto or will that fuck it up? I haven't been using it bc ive had like 30g of carbs total last 3 days.

 

[Gymrattt1]

I'm currently researching berberine and it's effects on insulin, the herb has potential for my cardiovastic patients with the blood sugar metabolism and cholesterol lowering benefits. I spoke with Dom and Nick at the Arnold classic a couple of weeks ago and he has his clients using the same product, which he mentioned in the video I posted above with nick in the Q and A, it's a promising all natural product that I will keep researching. Dom swears by it!

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[Sharks1989]

I have this stuff called RPG, it's a carb shuttler/nutrition partitioner that helps with insulin... Has Berberine among a bunch of other ingredients.

Can i use that or beberine while going keto or will that fuck it up? I haven't been using it bc ive had like 30g of carbs total last 3 days.

I've never heard of RPG what are the ingredients in it?

Also berberine acts or mimicks what metformin does.

Extremely beneficial for the ketogenic diet. Look up the effects of berberine and what it does as gymrat stated he was. You'll find out a ton of beneficial information on what it does to your insulin levels, and the best part is it's an all natural product. Also cinnamon bark and a few others help with insulin resistance as well.

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[Gymrattt1]

Yes sir 100% And it's a possibility that the reason I do is because I supplement on berberine daily. That will keep your insulin levels low even with consuming high amounts of sugar or carbohydrates. I use a ketone monitor and I've tested myself over and over whenever I do eat something with high fructose in it and has never once kicked me out. I can't say that this would be true for everyone because everyone's body is completely different but for myself it does not kick me out. But when I do have fructose it's not like I eat it all day long it's one meal so that's another possibility

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With my experience using maltodextrin in clinical studies and as powerful as maltodextrin is at raising Insulin, if you stay in keto with maltodextrin in your blood then absolutely it was the berberine that is responsible, and for berberine to go toe to toe with maltodextrin and win speaks volumes about its effectiveness and the fact Dom swears by it effects on his clients and being all natural is very very impressive.

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[Sharks1989]

With my experience using maltodextrin in clinical studies and as powerful as maltodextrin is at raising Insulin, if you stay in keto with maltodextrin in your blood then absolutely it was the berberine that is responsible, and for berberine to go toe to toe with maltodextrin and win speaks volumes about its effectiveness and the fact Dom swears by it effects on his clients and being all natural is very very impressive.

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That's the wonderful effects of berberine. EVERYONE who diets should supplement on it. So many benefits. Makes a ketogenic diet very easy to stay on and maintain. Especially on those high-carbohydrate days.

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[xxplosive]

That's the wonderful effects of berberine. EVERYONE who diets should supplement on it. So many benefits. Makes a ketogenic diet very easy to stay on and maintain. Especially on those high-carbohydrate days.

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I'm confused- are you then allowed to eat carbs and maintain ketosis if you use berberine prior to carb meals?

So i don't have to live off just meat, cheese and eggs?

 

[xxplosive]

I've never heard of RPG what are the ingredients in it?

Also berberine acts or mimicks what metformin does.

Extremely beneficial for the ketogenic diet. Look up the effects of berberine and what it does as gymrat stated he was. You'll find out a ton of beneficial information on what it does to your insulin levels, and the best part is it's an all natural product. Also cinnamon bark and a few others help with insulin resistance as well.

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The company that makes it is called Recon, and i believe they have a solid rep and make a lot of unique supps.

Off the top of my head, it also has cinnamon, Alpha Lipolic Acidc and a bunch of other stuff.

 

[Sharks1989]

I'm confused- are you then allowed to eat carbs and maintain ketosis if you use berberine prior to carb meals?

So i don't have to live off just meat, cheese and eggs?

Yes! But, I do not recommend doing that daily. If your just a beginner in keto, DO NOT do that. Once your body is fat adapted yes you'll be perfectly fine eating higher carbs certain days. I suggest also supplementing with exogenesis ketones as well. 1 or 2 super high carb day won't hurt you. Get a ketone monitor to test yourself after high carb meals. I know ppl who consume 100grams of carbs daily and still maintain ketosis. But that's only if your body responds well to it. I personally stay at 20 grams a day, and once or twice a week smash on high carbs and never knocks me out


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[Sharks1989]

The company that makes it is called Recon, and i believe they have a solid rep and make a lot of unique supps.

Off the top of my head, it also has cinnamon, Alpha Lipolic Acidc and a bunch of other stuff.

Yes then that stuff is good to use

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[xxplosive]

Yes! But, I do not recommend doing that daily. If your just a beginner in keto, DO NOT do that. Once your body is fat adapted yes you'll be perfectly fine eating higher carbs certain days. I suggest also supplementing with exogenesis ketones as well. 1 or 2 super high carb day won't hurt you. Get a ketone monitor to test yourself after high carb meals. I know ppl who consume 100grams of carbs daily and still maintain ketosis. But that's only if your body responds well to it. I personally stay at 20 grams a day, and once or twice a week smash on high carbs and never knocks me out


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Just finished Day 3 on keto... Just a few crowns of broccoli are literally all the carbs i had besides the 4g in my whey protein.

So i cant even drink whey protein with a couple grams of sugar in it?

Even with those couple saltine crackers i snuck in last night, couple pickle spears and broccoli, im around like 40g of carbs in 3 days.

This morning was chest day and i didn't feel dog tired, but i didn't feel particularly strong. Strength basically exactly where it left off from my last work out.

Is it not reasonable to expect ANY strength gains on your 7-8th week post cycle?

Did look pretty lean and full in gym despite being 7+ weeks since my last pin.

Should i just be satisfied that im not losing at this point?

 

[Gymrattt1]

I'm confused- are you then allowed to eat carbs and maintain ketosis if you use berberine prior to carb meals?

So i don't have to live off just meat, cheese and eggs?

Your body has to be fat adapted brother, you just can't stop eating carbs and sugar for 3 days and the body is trained to burn fat, the body eventually changes its own chemistry in the mitochondria and your then fat adapted. Then you can cycle carbs in like I'm doing now, I generally run keto for a week and then two carbs days and back to keto, you must not have watch the videos that I posted for you brother, watch this video and at the 9:15 point Thomas speaks about the body changing its chemical make up to fat adapted,

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https://youtu.be/fYCevT0dBac

 

[Gymrattt1]

Just finished Day 3 on keto... Just a few crowns of broccoli are literally all the carbs i had besides the 4g in my whey protein.

So i cant even drink whey protein with a couple grams of sugar in it?

Even with those couple saltine crackers i snuck in last night, couple pickle spears and broccoli, im around like 40g of carbs in 3 days.

This morning was chest day and i didn't feel dog tired, but i didn't feel particularly strong. Strength basically exactly where it left off from my last work out.

Is it not reasonable to expect ANY strength gains on your 7-8th week post cycle?

Did look pretty lean and full in gym despite being 7+ weeks since my last pin.

Should i just be satisfied that im not losing at this point?

Yes brother, you need to up your fat to compensate for the calories lost from your carbs, you absolutely cannot have anything with sugar because the body will pull from the blood fuel and not fat, find a protein powder that has no sugar and then add fat to the shake like almond butter or macadamia nut oil, or butter, or like I do and add 3 eggs, the reason for this is fat buffers insulin, watch the videos I posted for you, your not limited to meat cheese and eggs you opened up to every healthy fatty meat, fish, poultry, vegetables and many other foods that are carb and sugar free

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[Gymrattt1]

I added the video to post 137 watch and take not at the 9:15 point!!! You just started a keto diet and you are not in ketosis yet, remember lean protein causes an insulin spike because it does not have any fat to buffer insulin, whey protein is a 93 on the glycemic index and bacon is a 9, bacon has fat, whey does not, the insulin spike from whey will cause fat storage instantly plus the additional sugar This has to be understood.

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[Gymrattt1]

Are you understanding why a lean protein source stores fat!???, even without any sugar, and that fat buffers insulin also higher blood protein is converted to sugar by glyconeogenises, this is the basic psychology of ketosis, here is a basic insulin index, you can find a even more detailed glycemic index chart just Google and download https://images.app.goo.gl/phdyYS86sCHrVeSg6

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