Best way to use T4 + AAS

[Gymrattt1]

I love primo ace, and used to like EQ but haven't been able to use it since 2012.
I use primo e and primo ace.
Test-1-cyp raised my blood too much just like EQ.
Will try short esters of both of those being test prop and test ace don't cause me Hemo issues like test e and c or other long ester test. I think it's got to be metabolism of it and how it levels or builds in me and affects hepiciden. I don't know.... lol

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I always use primo in base with nandrolone base, that's my mass cycle with low test acetate 400mg, my go 2 mass gear, it's dead on balls accurate for mass.. Nandrolone base 800mg/week primo base 800mg/week, test ace 400mg

Damm I'm giving out all my secrets! Lol!

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[Gymrattt1]

Because t4 suppress bone marrow activity and diminishes the production of red blood cells triggering the onset of anemia, and will cause a specific form of anemia call iron deficiency anemia. That's why it is lowered brother.

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I'm confident that this is the cause of the problem!

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[xxplosive]

I always use primo in base with nandrolone base, that's my mass cycle with low test acetate 400mg, my go 2 mass gear, it's dead on balls accurate for mass.. Nandrolone base 800mg/week primo base 800mg/week, test ace 400mg

Damm I'm giving out all my secrets! Lol!

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I don't think i could ever get my hands on primo base...

Have you ever ran that with inj winny? Would that be too much to add into a stack.

 

[Solocom]

I don't think i could ever get my hands on primo base...

Have you ever ran that with inj winny? Would that be too much to add into a stack.

I'd love to find primo base as well. That sounds excellent.

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[Gymrattt1]

I don't think i could ever get my hands on primo base...

Have you ever ran that with inj winny? Would that be too much to add into a stack.

, Adding inj winny would not be a negative impact on your cycle, but I always recommend that you use a nandrolone with a stanozolol compound because of the joint lubricant benefits counteracting the join drying issue with stanozolol, also injectable winny has double the effect over the oral and will polish your psychic with a dry look and you avoid any hdl lowering effects. I have seen oral stanozolol drop hdl from 50 to single digits in 2 weeks by far the most dramatic impact on cholesterol than any other compound. Here is my inj winny source, pharmacom makes a oil base version and it's my favorite, smooth and no pip excellent product, soon as it is back in stock I'm scooping up 50 ml for the summer, I run 2ml eod with excellent results remember that the injection bypasses the liver and you don't get any mg loss like you get with orals, also has half the liver toxic effects and it's overall effect is twice that of the oral. https://us.basicstero.ws/stanozolol/pharmastan-50-oil-base

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[Gymrattt1]

Primo base is only available in raw powder format, I have a raw powder source from China and I I'm going to email Alan with hupharma and ask if they can make a batch without any ester, it's no problem for a source to make it, it's just one less step not adding the ester, having hupharma stock it means that it would be a domestic source and I would not have to Import it myself.!!!

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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Primo base is only available in raw powder format, I have a raw powder source from China and I I'm going to email Alan with hupharma and ask if they can make a batch without any ester, it's no problem for a source to make it, it's just one less step not adding the ester, having hupharma stock it means that it would be a domestic source and I would not have to Import it myself.!!!

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So, would this Prim base be done in an oil..? , Or a Suspension. PIP...? Either way , that you know of.


That'd be sweet if he could offer it, I'm happy to be able to get reg ME Raws in slightly smaller lots (that's next for personal stash )

 

[Gymrattt1]

Motor city!, good to hear from you!, I Compound mine in ethyl-oleate, an amazing carrier oil able to hold high mg and pass thru a 27 gauge pinn, it can be compounded into a suspension, but i would only recommend that it be micronized and few ug labs have that capability. Myself I prepare it at 200mg/ml and absolutely no pip whatsoever, boldenone base and primo base both have a distinct feeling when it hits the receptor, hard to explain but kind of like a euphoric feeling like the onset of extacy, and with the entire mg hitting the receptor without the delay of an ester is quite a distant feeling, you can actually feel it pumping thru your body like a warm euphoric rush, a must try imop brother!

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[xxplosive]

Motor city!, good to hear from you!, I Compound mine in ethyl-oleate, an amazing carrier oil able to hold high mg and pass thru a 27 gauge pinn, it can be compounded into a suspension, but i would only recommend that it be micronized and few ug labs have that capability. Myself I prepare it at 200mg/ml and absolutely no pip whatsoever, boldenone base and primo base both have a distinct feeling when it hits the receptor, hard to explain but kind of like a euphoric feeling like the onset of extacy, and with the entire mg hitting the receptor without the delay of an ester is quite a distant feeling, you can actually feel it pumping thru your body like a warm euphoric rush, a must try imop brother!

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Reason i love primo so much is that you just feel GOOD on it- the feeling of well being is almost as valuable as the amazing things it does for your physique!

 

[xxplosive]

No, adding inj winny would be a negative impact on your cycle, but I always recommend that you use a nandrolone with a stanozolol compound because of the joint lubricant benefits counteracting the join drying issue with stanozolol, also injectable winny has double the effect over the oral and will polish your psychic with a dry look and you avoid any hdl lowering effects. I have seen oral stanozolol drop hdl from 50 to single digits in 2 weeks by far the most dramatic impact on cholesterol than any other compound. Here is my inj winny source, pharmacom makes a oil base version and it's my favorite, smooth and no pip excellent product, soon as it is back in stock I'm scooping up 50 ml for the summer, I run 2ml eod with excellent results remember that the injection bypasses the liver and you don't get any mg loss like you get with orals, also has half the liver toxic effects and it's overall effect is twice that of the oral. https://us.basicstero.ws/stanozolol/pharmastan-50-oil-base

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What would be so negative about it in my cycle if its half the toxicity?

I almost don't like running NPP at all with winny, the 2 have amazing synergy together.

 

[Gymrattt1]

What would be so negative about it in my cycle if its half the toxicity?

I almost don't like running NPP at all with winny, the 2 have amazing synergy together.

Damm bro, my bad, that was a typo, it should read would not, sorry I was driving when I typed it up this morning, I'll edit it out, thanks for the heads up!.

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[Gymrattt1]

Reason i love primo so much is that you just feel GOOD on it- the feeling of well being is almost as valuable as the amazing things it does for your physique!

Exactly!, that feeling of well being, now magnify many many times all in one dose.The hupharma primo enanthate 100mg you were using last cycle is designed for its total mg to be spread over 28 days and the acetate form much faster over 3.5 days, and base is 100% total mg delivery in minutes, so imagine 200mg all at once.

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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Damm bro, my bad, that was a typo, it should read would not, sorry I was driving when I typed it up this morning, I'll edit it out, thanks for the heads up!.

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Keep your eyes on the "road"...!

We need ya here...

MCMM

 

[Gymrattt1]

Keep your eyes on the "road"...!

We need ya here...

MCMM

I feel ya MCMM!, it was about 1am, late nite cheat meal at whataburger, triple meat, triple cheese, and even got some fries, no one was on the road so i chocked it all down before I even got home!, that shit was call'n me bro.

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[xxplosive]

Damm bro, my bad, that was a typo, it should read would not, sorry I was driving when I typed it up this morning, I'll edit it out, thanks for the heads up!.

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I also meant to type "dont like running NPP withOUT winny".

Magic combo together, tren like effects with better size and no bullshit!!

Also, no sex issues running nandrolone w/ winny, at least for me!

 

[Gymrattt1]

I also meant to type "dont like running NPP withOUT winny".

Magic combo together, tren like effects with better size and no bullshit!!

Also, no sex issues running nandrolone w/ winny, at least for me!

That also happens when you stay away from the "ugly" woman!!!

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[Gymrattt1]

XX, I wanted to continue explaining the fluid effects in the body from your pm in the open forum because it's one the biggest mistakes inexperienced bb make and also misunderstood functions in the body. A bodybuilder wanting to have a dry look must understand potassium, sodium osmosis, maintaining a full and dry look is controlled by sodium and potassium intake, many bb try to control fluid with drugs and this is a big mistake. Many pro bb are not knowledgeable in human physiology and must hire a contest prep coach that understands cellular osmosis. I had a huge advantage when I competed over the years because many bb came in flat not understanding the importance of sodium and potassium, carb loading 48 hours before a show is only part of the equation and the entire process is very misunderstood. Water transfer in the body (osmosis) is controlled by potassium and sodium with potassium being the most important mineral in the body period!, the cells in the body are controlled by a potassium pump and potassium is pulled into the cells with water causing a voluminous effect, they expand and the muscles expand. Sodium controls the fluid outside of the cell and under skin, the kidneys control the rest of the fluid levels in the organs and body. Potassium is the most important for a bodybuilder and you will look flat with low potassium levels also have no energy because potassium controls the pumps that operate the electrical response of the cells. The average American diet is 7000mg sodium and less than 500mg potassium.. This should be reversed with a minimum of 3 to 1 ratio and a 4 to 1 ratio is ideal especially for bb. 8000mg potassium and 2000mg sodium will keep you full and dry. Like i said don't try to control fluid with drugs, that outcome will be a Secondary benefit. Higher sodium is responsible for the bloating and a soft looking athlete. Winstrol and masteron, halotestin are to be used to polish off your already lean physical appearance or contest prep up until 7 days out, and the last week is only halo and anti estrogenic compounds, there are 7 estrogens in the body and aromasin only controls 3 you must use clomid and arimadex for the complete estrogen removal prior to the show. The non competitive athletes needs the proper potassium level to be full and dry. You can't take potassium supplements because the body needs minimum 4000mg pet day and supplements only contain less than 100mg so you would need a bottle per day. Also once the kidneys are damaged by excessive orals and trenbolone which is also heavily metabolized in the kidneys will cause a severe fluid retention effect in the body and immediate discontinued usage must be performed to prevent any damage to the heart and blood pressure from the body holding so much water, the kidneys must be functioning properly before you can resume cycling. Potassium is critical for the body to properly maintain your water and operate the cellular pump to deliver minerals to your body. Dr berg explains this in a video that helps you to understand the need for the proper ratio and necessary effects on insulin resistance and potassium pump function, proper vegetable consumption is critical because you can't get enough potassium in supplements. My advice is to take a Himalayan sea salt because of the high mineral content as all minerals must be consumed together to avoid any problems with bioavailable issues between the minerals, check out Dr bergs video below, he is an expert on ketosis and insulin resistance, if you want to stay full and dry 8000mg potassium to 2000mg sodium daily.

https://youtu.be/q2vPQYP0dpI

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[Quix99]

Great post man..just to follow up, if anyone is doin keto..this post is crucial to perform on a keto diet as well. Proper balance eliminated the keto flu, and helps not killing performance as much. Once you get that good balance in, keto pumps do actually happen lol

 

[Gymrattt1]

Great post man..just to follow up, if anyone is doin keto..this post is crucial to perform on a keto diet as well. Proper balance eliminated the keto flu, and helps not killing performance as much. Once you get that good balance in, keto pumps do actually happen lol

Good point bro! , well said!

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[xxplosive]

Wow... Lots of valuable, advanced info in here.

High potassium foods I was looking at:

- Leafy greens
- Broccoli
- Salmon
- Potatoes
- Bananas
- Navy beans (wtf are they?)

Some other things i left off, feel free to add to the pile.