Bad gear discussion

[testboner]

Haven’t used PL personally, but I believe the lineup to be of good reputation. Many here have routinely used PL.
I don’t know BlueSky, but am familiar with Roc’s rep and experience. He vouches for BlueSky on this, and himself holds this particular lot of PL deca in question.
Sometimes some shit happens; raw source produces or gets hold of something not up to the normative standard — it happens.

6000mg (forgive me for not fact checking, but I’m assuming PL deca is 300mg) run at 900mg a week is 6.5 wk and plenty long at that dose to notice deca’s effects.
There’s no reason this can’t all be satisfactory ironed out. I’m sure PL would like to know if this batch of deca was somehow sub-par, and get to the bottom of it.

It’s relatable to see both sides on the matter.
Hope to see everything worked out for the benefit of all.

 

[Roc]

Haven’t used PL personally, but I believe the lineup to be of good reputation. Many here have routinely used PL.
I don’t know BlueSky, but am familiar with Roc’s rep and experience. He vouches for BlueSky on this, and himself holds this particular lot of PL deca in question.
Sometimes some shit happens; raw source produces or gets hold of something not up to the normative standard — it happens.

6000mg (forgive me for not fact checking, but I’m assuming PL deca is 300mg) run at 900mg a week is 6.5 wk and plenty long at that dose to notice deca’s effects.
There’s no reason this can’t all be satisfactory ironed out. I’m sure PL would like to know if this batch of deca was somehow sub-par, and get to the bottom of it.

It’s relatable to see both sides on the matter.
Hope to see everything worked out for the benefit of all.

Thanks bud, private has been good to me, and do I think it’s just oil NO, his rep is huge and that puts his biz out there. Like I said I’m a professional, even if the product wasn’t good I would tuck it under a blanket, maybe I’m so used to MCT oil it hits me different, I always will give it a chance, and private has contacted me saying what I needed to hear. I’ve been around this game for along time and just don’t want to see things get out of hand as some people we have in the past get.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Hey guys I have a question. I purchased some deca from one of our sponsors here. I've ran deca a few times....and one main side effects its known for jand that I get without fail is the excess water. I dont mind it when bulking because I know what the end results yield. Anyway, I grabbed some from said sponsor and ran deca the highest I've ever run it....I am running test at 1500mg and deca at 900mg weekly....I have ZERO water from this. Not to mention I'm dont really have too much of that soft look deca has. I've intentionally been trying to do things to get the water retention. Now...it is some ppl here who I run deca from (D-Red) and without fail I get the results I'm looking for and it does what i know its posed to....I've been at 900mg on said sponsors deca for at least 9 weeks or so...more then enough time....all his gear is the same color...yellow...and If anything the scale is doing down. Now even if ur on an OK diet that deca will add lbs even if its water. This does nothing, how should I approach this situation. Should I post under his sponsor section....PM him...idk what to do.. I know I'm at a loss but fuck....at least I need to get the word out....I'm not going to expose right now until I have proper guidance on what to do. Just out

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IMO issues like this should always tried to be handled off the boards. If there is no compromise the I think it would best to include a mod or the administrator.

 

[01dragonslayer]

IMO issues like this should always tried to be handled off the boards. If there is no compromise the I think it would best to include a mod or the administrator.

....I may, and I will say in most cases and I do not know the situation here, calling a sponsor or an individual out should be a last option.

 

[suraonyx23]

Ok somebody just send the shit to jano and get it tested

 

[Private Label]

Exactly my point. I mean no disrespect to
either of the guys that are claiming to have issues with the Deca. BUT Blueskye has not been running my Deca for even 4 weeks and that’s a fact. I make my gear in 100 vial batches so 2 guys out of 100 have an issue solely based on “not feeling it” please look at bluesky crazy 20 week cycle and all the compounds he’s running. How can you tell that 1 out of 8-9 compounds isn’t working? The other member said he’s only just on his second vial at 1000mg per week so I asked him to run it longer because it hasn’t been long and he was very polite. Whenever I get things like this I do my research. So if you post a few days ago that you’re feeling great and gains are insane then openly accuse me a few days later for selling you bunk gear I’m going to get defensive. I don’t go off of “I’m not feeling it” claims especially when you’re running GRAMS per week of other compounds. If you approach me correctly as Roc did I’m the nicest guy in the world. But if you come at me with no proof other than you know you’re not feeling it and you’ve been running one of the longest estered products made for 3 weeks then sorry I’m not gonna be able to help you.

 

[hwntime]

Exactly my point. I mean no disrespect to
either of the guys that are claiming to have issues with the Deca. BUT Blueskye has not been running my Deca for even 4 weeks and that’s a fact. I make my gear in 100 vial batches so 2 guys out of 100 have an issue solely based on “not feeling it” please look at bluesky crazy 20 week cycle and all the compounds he’s running. How can you tell that 1 out of 8-9 compounds isn’t working? The other member said he’s only just on his second vial at 1000mg per week so I asked him to run it longer because it hasn’t been long and he was very polite. Whenever I get things like this I do my research. So if you post a few days ago that you’re feeling great and gains are insane then openly accuse me a few days later for selling you bunk gear I’m going to get defensive. I don’t go off of “I’m not feeling it” claims especially when you’re running GRAMS per week of other compounds. If you approach me correctly as Roc did I’m the nicest guy in the world. But if you come at me with no proof other than you know you’re not feeling it and you’ve been running one of the longest estered products made for 3 weeks then sorry I’m not gonna be able to help you.

i agree totally. As mentioned above in my last post, the numbers don’t add up. I’ve been ordering from PL since he joined here and don’t have anything but good to say about him and his gear. As I said before, I believe it is some of the best UG gear out today.

 

[ranger134]

Idk why anyone is saying this sponsor stuff great or this guy great . This between three people for them to sort out everyone else is irrelevant. That's my opinion

 

[suraonyx23]

Idk why anyone is saying this sponsor stuff great or this guy great . This between three people for them to sort out everyone else is irrelevant. That's my opinion

Yep, but Like I said earlier just send the damn bottle to jano and have it tested. Easy peasy

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I have ran Deca with t3/t4 and no bloat but awsome results and ate anything.

I have ran Deca in times of fast metabolism and got full and looked great.

I have ran it and bloated but not till later years. Am 43 never bloated from deca until 36

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[Muscle mechanic]

Sometimes it's not the gear..... it's us

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[hwntime]

Idk why anyone is saying this sponsor stuff great or this guy great . This between three people for them to sort out everyone else is irrelevant. That's my opinion

because sometimes reputation means a lot in our world. We anonymously send money to a stranger in exchange for goods. If a sponsor has a good rep, then it lessens the worry for us hard working people to send money. That’s why airing things out for all to see can be good because you can see how professional both sides are in handling the matter. Is that not why we are here; to learn, teach, and watch out for each other.

 

[hwntime]

Sometimes it's not the gear..... it's us

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So true. Unfortunately there are a lot of reverse scammers that lurk this and every other board. It’s just the nature of the beast. Not saying OP is one, but it happens much more than most of you guys would realize.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Well that’s not true, I’m running 2500mg of sus and vascular as hell, and ran drol at 300mg a day and grainy as fuck, just gotta know what ur doing, and have the right people watching you!!

How about while on Deca?

Edit: I saw where you said your face bloats on Deca. Which makes since because Deca upregulates estrogen and my nips get way more sensitive on Deca than on test alone..

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Guys, could it be possible that your body adjusts after so many runs of Deca and he's simply not bloating like he used to? As in it's not as effective at that dose?

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Guys, could it be possible that your body adjusts after so many runs of Deca and he's simply not bloating like he used to? As in it's not as effective at that dose?

If all is right, bloat is unwanted!!! Bloat is side affects of prolactin and estrogen affecting Aldersterone, reabosorbing sodium ions!!
Deca is wanted for protein synthesis and nitrogen retension not bloat!!

If all in check deca shines as a gainer and fullness and size achieved not bloat!!

Bloat says we not doing something right or something out of whack. Trust me bloat and definition loss not seeked.
A hard gainer can get great look from deca....

But when I don't bloat I am happy!! I add mast at 700wk just because it helps unwanted bloat!!

I had had some of my best looks from deca and during times I was hard gainer and used same batch of gear later and bloated...

It's same as lots of things our body adjusts from too much gear to stop it. When this happens it means time to cruise and let protiens and myoslatin get back to normal!!!

Private label has great gear hands down and they have offered me things just because of trouble of stock out after I put order in for having to times coming. Can't go wrong like that.

I have seen private label offer to donate to fix a car on this board... I had already grabbed goods in that section and guy in need was honest too and said he was good...
[MENTION=5036]BlueSky[/MENTION] I know u straight shooter just trust my sometimes it's us and not the gear... I learned this staying on too much and switching seeking what i wasn't getting.

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[C587]

[MENTION=2414]blueskys06[/MENTION] did you get more Private Label gear from a source other then him so your dosage claims can be substantiated?? I have no dog in the fight but the math doesn't seem to add up??? Also [MENTION=1298]Roc[/MENTION] are you implying your running PL DECA with less then good results? Just trying to make things clear so everyone can fairly form their own opinion.

 

[hwntime]

Guys, could it be possible that your body adjusts after so many runs of Deca and he's simply not bloating like he used to? As in it's not as effective at that dose?

It’s a possibility like testosterone. When I first started over a decade ago, I’d break out in massive acne on my face, chest, and back on 500mg. About 5 years I realized I could run up to 750mg and not a single pimple anywhere.

 

[01dragonslayer]

Sometimes it's not the gear..... it's us

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Exactly MM.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Just get it tested. I have no stake in this either but, have always stuck to Red, Rambo, PL, and Gym Junkie and have found each to be over accomodating. That being the case, I did use Test at a higher dose and bloods came back lower than expected once. It turned-out to NOT be what was in the vial but, what my body was doing with it. I need to increase dosage each time to reflect blood levels. Call it weird as 2+2 should be 4 but my body makes it a 3. All good dudes here. Youre all my Brothers in this game and got me out of a very dark place a couple years ago when I was stuck in a wheelchair and told my days of being athletic were over. They ended up not to be bevause of motivation from all of u. Thats the important thing to remember here. Brothers argue and fight but, we always have each others backs.


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