Bad gear discussion

[blueskys06]

Hey guys I have a question. I purchased some deca from one of our sponsors here. I've ran deca a few times....and one main side effects its known for jand that I get without fail is the excess water. I dont mind it when bulking because I know what the end results yield. Anyway, I grabbed some from said sponsor and ran deca the highest I've ever run it....I am running test at 1500mg and deca at 900mg weekly....I have ZERO water from this. Not to mention I'm dont really have too much of that soft look deca has. I've intentionally been trying to do things to get the water retention. Now...it is some ppl here who I run deca from (D-Red) and without fail I get the results I'm looking for and it does what i know its posed to....I've been at 900mg on said sponsors deca for at least 9 weeks or so...more then enough time....all his gear is the same color...yellow...and If anything the scale is doing down. Now even if ur on an OK diet that deca will add lbs even if its water. This does nothing, how should I approach this situation. Should I post under his sponsor section....PM him...idk what to do.. I know I'm at a loss but fuck....at least I need to get the word out....I'm not going to expose right now until I have proper guidance on what to do. Just out

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[blueskys06]

Just out of courtesy or respect to forum...so any advise from our senior members would be appreciated. Nothing but love for the board so let me know how to go about this plz. Even if it is 'real' Deca I dont see or feel shit and is probably severely underused. Even if it was at 100mg...advertised at 300...I should be getting some effect if I'm dosing at 900!

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[hwntime]

PM sponsor and ask him what’s up. I think it’s fair to come out publicly with the sponsor’s name because that’s why we’re all here; to learn, educate, and protect each other.

 

[blueskys06]

PM sponsor and ask him what’s up. I think it’s fair to come out publicly with the sponsor’s name because that’s why we’re all here; to learn, educate, and protect each other.

Note taken, I'll PM sponsor, but if others confirm to speak his name publicly then I'll do so

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[Argon Coagulator]

How about the test? You should be bloating on 1500mg of test alone...

 

[blueskys06]

How about the test? You should be bloating on 1500mg of test alone...

No bloating right now. I did get bloodwork done, but labcorp doesn't count exact number above a certain amount. My count was above 1500mg but I had just switch from D-Red's test. So the other test may not have kicked in yet. I'm on my second vial of the sponsors test. No bloating at all, main thing I notice when I'm on DECA is my hands swell and I can't get my ring off. I'm telling you, this shit I get ZERO bloat or water retention. Also to note DECA will give me moon face if im not strict enough. This go round I've been smashing pizza, mcdonalds etc, almost like I'm trying to bring on sides and get that fat boy bulking look. I ain't getting a damn thing. I don't care what no one says....at 900mg on DECA you WILL see some bloat or water, thats just the nature of the beast. If i were to show you pics now, you would think I was on tren or something

 

[Hevi-head]

No bloating right now. I did get bloodwork done, but labcorp doesn't count exact number above a certain amount. My count was above 1500mg but I had just switch from D-Red's test. So the other test may not have kicked in yet. I'm on my second vial of the sponsors test. No bloating at all, main thing I notice when I'm on DECA is my hands swell and I can't get my ring off. I'm telling you, this shit I get ZERO bloat or water retention. Also to note DECA will give me moon face if im not strict enough. This go round I've been smashing pizza, mcdonalds etc, almost like I'm trying to bring on sides and get that fat boy bulking look. I ain't getting a damn thing. I don't care what no one says....at 900mg on DECA you WILL see some bloat or water, thats just the nature of the beast. If i were to show you pics now, you would think I was on tren or something

They actually do have a different method of checking testosterone levels that will be above 1500 but the "default" test they use caps at 1500

 

[Hevi-head]

How about the test? You should be bloating on 1500mg of test alone...

I don't hardly bloat at all but scale should definitely not be dropping at 1.5 grams a week of test if you're eating even moderately decent

 

[blueskys06]

I don't hardly bloat at all but scale should definitely not be dropping at 1.5 grams a week of test if you're eating even moderately decent

I mean I dont baloon but I def retain some water. Which I dont mind. And yes I eat enough that ain't the issue at all. And it right scale shouldn't be going down at all!

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[Roc]

How about the test? You should be bloating on 1500mg of test alone...

Well that’s not true, I’m running 2500mg of sus and vascular as hell, and ran drol at 300mg a day and grainy as fuck, just gotta know what ur doing, and have the right people watching you!!

 

[Roc]

I am going threw this same issue now, I won’t say the lab, but I’m on 1000 a week and even my girl can tell when I’m on deca, my face gets huge, so I’m calling bunk, and hope this isn’t true, but again why do I try anything but dred??

 

[Private Label]

I’m going to go ahead and step in here because I’m the one being called out. Bluesky is claiming on email to me that he is running my Test E at 1500mg per week, my Deca at 900mg per week and my EQ at 750mg per week. Happy to post the email but he claims he’s been running this for about 10 weeks. So what do I do? I look through his past orders from me. He has ordered 3 times fine me August, sept. And November 20th. In all of his orders he’s only ordered 2 Deca, 3 EQ and 1 Test E from me so please guys do the math and tell me how he has been doing these high doses for almost 10 weeks on the very small amount of gear he ordered from me? Says he’s running prescription Letro and Caber as well. Deca is not faked guys because it’s cheap. And it’s pretty distinguished as opposed to other raws. I got no pm or email from this member befor they tried to blast me on the open forum. I am VERY careful with everything when it comes to brewing and I know it’s 300mg/ml guys. Deca would be the last compound a supplier would skimp you on. Please in the future do t post threads before talking to me or say stuff like it’s bunk. I don’t make or sell junk and never will.

PS I’d like to add that my Deca didn’t land to the OP till the beginning of December so 3 weeks or so on Deca and you’re “not feeling it” !? I really dont take kindly to people hurting my reputation by giving false information. You approach me respectfully and I’ll help you the best I can but this is ridiculous

 

[Kins]

Private Label has a great reputation on here for a reason. He makes great gear. Another thing I don't understand why some people, not just the OP judge AAS by side effects and actually go into a cycle looking for side effects!. Makes no sense to me. I myself try to avoid side effects the best I can. More side effects doesn't mean "better" gear.

 

[blueskys06]

Private Label has a great reputation on here for a reason. He makes great gear. Another thing I don't understand why some people, not just the OP judge AAS by side effects and actually go into a cycle looking for side effects!. Makes no sense to me. I myself try to avoid side effects the best I can. More side effects doesn't mean "better" gear.

Kins it's not that I'm judging or looking for nothing specific. But everyone has compounds where you KNOW what will happen to you. Ex, some ppl know winny will give them dry joints, some ppl will get sweats on tren, some ppl know their dick wont work on Deca. When I run deca there are some things I know my body will react to. I'm not saying he is a bad lab and real talk if he was to show my original email I came to him with the utmost respect. And was just looking to inform. Wasnt looking to be compensated or nothing. And I posted here because I was asking advice from fellow members on how to proceed. I didnt put him on blast and wasnt planning on it. But he wants to claim no one else is having issues when someone else is speaking up, says something. I'm not the only one. What does it benefit me to call someone out? What do I have to gain out of this. He claims my math doesnt add up, he can think whatever he wants but at the end of day I'm running his deca right now n I'm not seeing results. I wanted to be respectful but I guess we are only expected to speak praise and never say when something is wrong. Never said all his gear was bunk at all. It's like no one wants to admit that human error is possible. Like it's impossible to make a mistake

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[HoRRoRT]

Private Label has a great reputation on here for a reason. He makes great gear. Another thing I don't understand why some people, not just the OP judge AAS by side effects and actually go into a cycle looking for side effects!. Makes no sense to me. I myself try to avoid side effects the best I can. More side effects doesn't mean "better" gear.

I don't always get the same sides as the last cycle!! sometimes I'm lucky and avoid any sides at all and some I get punched in the face with them

 

[Private Label]

No it’s definitely possible to make a mistake but if you brewed you’d know that every compound is made differently so if I poured 300g of something else in my GSO and used the BA/BB ratios that are meant for Deca then the compound would probably crash. Also I know for a FACT you only ordered 2 vials of my Deca and 1 Vial of my Test and it landed on November 29th. Happy to show a screenshot if you’d like. So you’re post says CLEARLY that you’ve been running MY Test at 1500mg/Deca 900mg/EQ 750mg per week for 10 weeks? It hasn’t been 4 weeks since my product landed on your doorstep brother. Not to mention 1 vial of Test 250 would last about a week and a half. At 1500mg per week so you’re not using my Test brother. I keep all my records for just this reason. Been on here for 2 years with not so much as a complaint for a reason. Had you approached me with a legitimate concern I will always help. But you’re first post as well as your email to me is a lie and no one “feels” Deca in a little over 3 weeks bro. Sorry

 

[blueskys06]

1st off, I started with a left over vial of deca from another lab...but the majority of the time I was running your deca...but u know what, fuck it bro...u got it....As I stated in the email if u wanna post it or not I dont give a shit. I came to you out of respect. I wasnt botching, crying for refund, or calling all ur gear bunk. But since u cant take constructive crit...u got it...I ain't even reading this shit no more. This is petty to me. I posted here bc I asked from other members on how to proceed. Bc I never came across a situation such as this. One answer was to reach out directly. Which I did. I never had any intent on slandering you publicly. But since u quick to go on the defense. That speaks for itself IMO. Take it how u want. I wasnt looking to get shit out of this, and as stated I'm not the only one having an issue. So u calling bs on him too I assume. No customer service there whatsoever. You coulda have asked other questions to at least see what's up. But immediately you bring accusations and call bs....lol...no biggie. I appreciate your service anyway bro. Thanks for your product and appreciate you nonetheless.

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[Kins]

I don't always get the same sides as the last cycle!! sometimes I'm lucky and avoid any sides at all and some I get punched in the face with them

Right. I could run a cycle of the same drug for the same source one year, and run it another time the next year and get completely different results and side effects or lack there of. It all depends...

 

[Roc]

1st off, I started with a left over vial of deca from another lab...but the majority of the time I was running your deca...but u know what, fuck it bro...u got it....As I stated in the email if u wanna post it or not I dont give a shit. I came to you out of respect. I wasnt botching, crying for refund, or calling all ur gear bunk. But since u cant take constructive crit...u got it...I ain't even reading this shit no more. This is petty to me. I posted here bc I asked from other members on how to proceed. Bc I never came across a situation such as this. One answer was to reach out directly. Which I did. I never had any intent on slandering you publicly. But since u quick to go on the defense. That speaks for itself IMO. Take it how u want. I wasnt looking to get shit out of this, and as stated I'm not the only one having an issue. So u calling bs on him too I assume. No customer service there whatsoever. You coulda have asked other questions to at least see what's up. But immediately you bring accusations and call bs....lol...no biggie. I appreciate your service anyway bro. Thanks for your product and appreciate you nonetheless.

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bluesky is a good dude, as for many people here are not like flakes on other boards, some people like bluesky, me and others run high mg, and not saying that matters but we look for certain things so we can adjust other compounds to battle. I have been at this for a long time and don’t want to toot my horn but know a lot and when things seem off or my girl sees things are off it raises a concern. We can sit here and point fingers and say what we want but in the long run I know what I will do, or what many would do. Shit happens, we are all men here and can take the high road, without making this a mess. I will say this, bluesky is a great dude with experience and we need people like this around cause the world is full of young assholes.

As for this whole deca thing, I will give it 1 more bottle which is two weeks then move on.

 

[hwntime]

Hmm interesting situation this is. I’ve ordered several times from Private and frankly, he has some of the best UGL gear out there in my opinion. I haven’t tried his deca but I did use quite a few compounds all with great results. His tren is especially on point. PL did pull up the past order history and the math does not add up for sure. 10 weeks at 900mg will end up more than the 2 vials of deca that OP ordered from PL. So, it’s either OP is running another lab’s deca, or not running the 900/wk as stated, or OP is not telling the whole story. I’m being unbiased as possible here and not taking sides but just going purely off of the fact that OP only ordered 2 deca from PL. I’m a total numbers guy (economics major here) and numbers never lie.