Adex vs. Aromasin

[jolter604]

Ok I have always used aromasin 12.5 mg to 25 mg of pfitzer and it has always worked great.

I picked up a habit of blazing indo to eat more and sleep more. Now my nips are achy daily gonna switch to adex and see how it works.

Anyone have some experience using both and have some feedback.

And I dropped the weed but they still little sore.

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[Ricnixon]

What compounds are you running and what dosages?

 

[jolter604]

Test400 same as old denkall mix at 800mg and nandrolone decanate at 450mg I also added caber e3d

What compounds are you running and what dosages?

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[Ricnixon]

800mg test and 450mg of deca is gonna make your E2 and progesterone surge after about 6-8 weeks. Your getting an extra 30% e2 conversion with the deca, so something to consider. When you run over a gram of wet compounds you gonna need to keep that e2 suppressed pretty good but not crash it.

I don’t recommend letro unless it’s an emergency as it’s hard to find a balance with that compound.

Adex is great but it could have a rebound effect and be counterproductive down the line.

Keep the aromasin at 25mg EOD and the caber .5mg 2 times a week for now. This is where nolva comes in handy it works a little different and targets gyno issues a little better. I’ve had this problem and nolva was a game changer. add some nolva in there at 20mg for a few days and then at 10mg eod. Don’t panic it’s early just make small adjustments so you don’t crash.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

U said it.
25mg AROMASIN eod is perfect when I use deca 600wk and test 600wk
And cabar 0.5mg 2x wk

I have not trouble with gyno, thankfully
But I gain fat in lower outer chest and lower back fat. It's def estro fed!!

This last lean bulk run I used trest ace included low dosed at around 18-25mg a day.
I used letro at 1.25mg 3x week one then 2x week 2 of trest and then Aromasin 25mg eod Cabar 0.5mg 2x week and Nolva 10mg a day
I also add mast and proviron to help with their dht estro fighting nature, and receptor binding affinities that leave less room for estro!!

800mg test and 450mg of deca is gonna make your E2 and progesterone surge after about 6-8 weeks. Your getting an extra 30% e2 conversion with the deca, so something to consider. When you run over a gram of wet compounds you gonna need to keep that e2 suppressed pretty good but not crash it.

I don’t recommend letro unless it’s an emergency as it’s hard to find a balance with that compound.

Adex is great but it could have a rebound effect and be counterproductive down the line.

Keep the aromasin at 25mg EOD and the caber .5mg 2 times a week for now. This is where nolva comes in handy it works a little different and targets gyno issues a little better. I’ve had this problem and nolva was a game changer. add some nolva in there at 20mg for a few days and then at 10mg eod. Don’t panic it’s early just make small adjustments so you don’t crash.

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[Muscle mechanic]

With rebound on letro or adex if we switch and finish with Aromasin while esters clear and metabolites if aromatase that can rebound or completely metabolized we can staff off rebound.

Also tapering letro or adex while these esters and metabolites if aromatase clear we will beat the most part of rebound!

This is important guys!!
Adex or letro compete to stop and estro and lower. They compete and win binding over aromatase!!
Rebound is caused when half life of Adex or letro become too weak.
These cells and metabolites of aromatase have to have this competitor there (adex or letro) or else they can and will rebound and convert to estro!!
So it's fine tuning to time keeping adex or letro present a dose that will not Lower estro too much or crash once source of aromatase is stopped (our aromatase gear)!
Stopping that source we have to be aware that esters clear with Half-Life then enzymes of aromatase clear once metabolized.
Rebound doesn't mean u will have estro come back with vengeance or from being suppressed or any build up.
It just means that the enzymes that adex or letro or bond to, will become active if competitor isn't there or becomes too weak!

Aromasin suicide inhibitor.
This is simple.
Aromasin binds to aromatase enzymes and deforms cells or whatever in a way that they cannot become active again before metabolized!!
So once bound those it's bound to cannot rebound if it's stopped or half life becomes too weak!!
Simple to explain aromasin.

Also Aromasin has no beef with Nolva.
Aromasin uses different Cyp Enzyme to metabolize!!

Adex and letro both share same cyp enzymes as Nolva so plasma levels of one being used if used together will be lower.
Example if I take Nolva 10mg and adex 0.5mg 2x week plasma levels of one will be lower than if used alone of one or other.
Can't remember which.

I still use nolva at 10mg a day in most runs and still use it with adex or letro despite this interaction of lowering plasma levels.

I myself come to prefer Aromasin on blast of bulkers .
But on cut I prefer adex because I have less aromatase and can use more as needed and dose easier than aromasin on cut!!!

Fellas I hope I help someone understand this is very simple but also hard to explain!!

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[Muscle mechanic]

Ok I have always used aromasin 12.5 mg to 25 mg of pfitzer and it has always worked great.

I picked up a habit of blazing indo to eat more and sleep more. Now my nips are achy daily gonna switch to adex and see how it works.

Anyone have some experience using both and have some feedback.

And I dropped the weed but they still little sore.

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I wrote several post here!!

Nolva a must in my option with 19Nors.

If u got problems with gyno and u Gonna run Nandrolones I advice u run mast and proviron.
With your cycle mast at 800wk min and of Proviron 50mg-100mg a day
Plus nolva at 10mg a day.
To knock out nipps add nolva at 40 a day for 3 days reduce to 20 until clear then keep at 10mg
With Aromasin at 25mg eod with your stack ATM!!

To reduce even more use letro at 1.25mg eod week 1 with your nolva dosed as above
Then letro at 1.25mg 3x wk 2nd week and start your aromasin 25mg eod

I am telling u things I have done like with trest ace and my deca test Anadrol.
I did that at start with letro to get on top of estro then I kept in check
With aromasin 25mg eod and Nolva 10mg a day

But I always use mast and proviron especially with Nandrolones!!!

The benifits from mast and proviron for me is this protection without crashing estro with too much ai!!

I run many blasts including test e 1000wk
Deca 600wk with NO AI!!
But I use mast 1000wk Proviron 100mg a day
And Nolva 10mg a day


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[Ricnixon]

With rebound on letro or adex if we switch and finish with Aromasin while esters clear and metabolites if aromatase that can rebound or completely metabolized we can staff off rebound.

Also tapering letro or adex while these esters and metabolites if aromatase clear we will beat the most part of rebound!

This is important guys!!
Adex or letro compete to stop and estro and lower. They compete and win binding over aromatase!!
Rebound is caused when half life of Adex or letro become too weak.
These cells and metabolites of aromatase have to have this competitor there (adex or letro) or else they can and will rebound and convert to estro!!
So it's fine tuning to time keeping adex or letro present a dose that will not Lower estro too much or crash once source of aromatase is stopped (our aromatase gear)!
Stopping that source we have to be aware that esters clear with Half-Life then enzymes of aromatase clear once metabolized.
Rebound doesn't mean u will have estro come back with vengeance or from being suppressed or any build up.
It just means that the enzymes that adex or letro or bond to, will become active if competitor isn't there or becomes too weak!

Aromasin suicide inhibitor.
This is simple.
Aromasin binds to aromatase enzymes and deforms cells or whatever in a way that they cannot become active again before metabolized!!
So once bound those it's bound to cannot rebound if it's stopped or half life becomes too weak!!
Simple to explain aromasin.

Also Aromasin has no beef with Nolva.
Aromasin uses different Cyp Enzyme to metabolize!!

Adex and letro both share same cyp enzymes as Nolva so plasma levels of one being used if used together will be lower.
Example if I take Nolva 10mg and adex 0.5mg 2x week plasma levels of one will be lower than if used alone of one or other.
Can't remember which.

I still use nolva at 10mg a day in most runs and still use it with adex or letro despite this interaction of lowering plasma levels.

I myself come to prefer Aromasin on blast of bulkers .
But on cut I prefer adex because I have less aromatase and can use more as needed and dose easier than aromasin on cut!!!

Fellas I hope I help someone understand this is very simple but also hard to explain!!

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Great post as always pal. Amazing info here

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Great post as always pal. Amazing info here

Thanks my friend!!
Adex letro compete and have to be there!!
If 2 fighters fight, one tired or gets weak or even stops, the one losing battle can rebound!!
But Aromasin is related to DHT molecule, in its structure!! Once it binds it's done!!!

Reason I also love dht compounds to run with blasts or cuts!! Lol! I am bald been long time so....

And good to know about Nolva and how it's affected by letro or adex. But as said i still use! Most research available from breast cancer cases and studies. Important to note but we are using to prevent a non cancerous growth, hopefully.

Nixon hope u enjoyed your family today and your info u share ALWAYS appreciated!


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[MindlessWork]

A good question how does weed affect using adex/aromasin/nolva or even AAS? Good info here though!

 

[Muscle mechanic]

A good question how does weed affect using adex/aromasin/nolva or even AAS? Good info here though!

I dont smoke pot!!!
But 16 years ago had my share.

But THC raises estro, even can cause gyno on its own

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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I dont smoke pot!!!
But 16 years ago had my share.

But THC raises estro, even can cause gyno on its own

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In some peeps perhaps, I've been blazing since 13 Panama red, ( Cincimilia, Gold bud, redbud, ) all herbs of the past, now it's the fandangled strains stronger than shit, but any rate , 40 years of smoking the bud, no bitch tits here. But I do recall hearing all that, even b4 I knee whztbgyno was/is...!

~ MCMM

 

[Muscle mechanic]

He mentioned it!! Lol!
I never had issue but it's what they say!! Lol

I gotta do drug screens constant, so I can't have anything in system. If not... maybe to relax, but I love stims. Like my adhd meds!! Lol

In some peeps perhaps, I've been blazing since 13 Panama red, ( Cincimilia, Gold bud, redbud, ) all herbs of the past, now it's the fandangled strains stronger than shit, but any rate , 40 years of smoking the bud, no bitch tits here. But I do recall hearing all that, even b4 I knee whztbgyno was/is...!

~ MCMM

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[Nutpuncher]

I think you may have underlying condition of some sort if cannabis increases estrogen enough to cause you issues such as some sort of hypersensitivity or allergic reaction.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I think you may have underlying condition of some sort if cannabis increases estrogen enough to cause you issues such as some sort of hypersensitivity or allergic reaction.

Agreed!!
I don't believe the issue of cannibis, but do know some have something underlying it can aggregate

My brother had gyno lumps since puberty they would come and go especially under stress.

He was given a drug called Respiritdol, that aggrevated bad. He was taken off the drug then was put on Arimadex by his reg Dr.
It was treatment program that gave him the Respiritdol....

Lumps shrank over the years certain gear would bother, all 19Nors..
He had then cut out.
And they came back are start to.
He uses adex and Nolva when they start.
On cycle adex and Nolva
And he doesn't use 19Nors anymore!!

They never came back like they were but a lump is in there little knot.
19Nors they grow and fill with fluid!!!

Anyway the claim is certain Serotonin reuptake inhibitor and or things that increase it can contribute to this imbalance some men have. Cannabis is one they claim of but it's just certain people with these issues!! They are supposed to increase prolactin and estrogen.

Anyway I wasn't saying that, OP mentioned he stopped it the pot!!

Lol!!

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[Serpico]

800mg test and 450mg of deca is gonna make your E2 and progesterone surge after about 6-8 weeks. Your getting an extra 30% e2 conversion with the deca, so something to consider. When you run over a gram of wet compounds you gonna need to keep that e2 suppressed pretty good but not crash it.

I don’t recommend letro unless it’s an emergency as it’s hard to find a balance with that compound.

Adex is great but it could have a rebound effect and be counterproductive down the line.

Keep the aromasin at 25mg EOD and the caber .5mg 2 times a week for now. This is where nolva comes in handy it works a little different and targets gyno issues a little better. I’ve had this problem and nolva was a game changer. add some nolva in there at 20mg for a few days and then at 10mg eod. Don’t panic it’s early just make small adjustments so you don’t crash.

Great advice ....man I love this forum ...so much knowledge ...
Serpico
I will never quit. My nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down i will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.”

 

[Serpico]

With rebound on letro or adex if we switch and finish with Aromasin while esters clear and metabolites if aromatase that can rebound or completely metabolized we can staff off rebound.

Also tapering letro or adex while these esters and metabolites if aromatase clear we will beat the most part of rebound!

This is important guys!!
Adex or letro compete to stop and estro and lower. They compete and win binding over aromatase!!
Rebound is caused when half life of Adex or letro become too weak.
These cells and metabolites of aromatase have to have this competitor there (adex or letro) or else they can and will rebound and convert to estro!!
So it's fine tuning to time keeping adex or letro present a dose that will not Lower estro too much or crash once source of aromatase is stopped (our aromatase gear)!
Stopping that source we have to be aware that esters clear with Half-Life then enzymes of aromatase clear once metabolized.
Rebound doesn't mean u will have estro come back with vengeance or from being suppressed or any build up.
It just means that the enzymes that adex or letro or bond to, will become active if competitor isn't there or becomes too weak!

Aromasin suicide inhibitor.
This is simple.
Aromasin binds to aromatase enzymes and deforms cells or whatever in a way that they cannot become active again before metabolized!!
So once bound those it's bound to cannot rebound if it's stopped or half life becomes too weak!!
Simple to explain aromasin.

Also Aromasin has no beef with Nolva.
Aromasin uses different Cyp Enzyme to metabolize!!

Adex and letro both share same cyp enzymes as Nolva so plasma levels of one being used if used together will be lower.
Example if I take Nolva 10mg and adex 0.5mg 2x week plasma levels of one will be lower than if used alone of one or other.
Can't remember which.

I still use nolva at 10mg a day in most runs and still use it with adex or letro despite this interaction of lowering plasma levels.

I myself come to prefer Aromasin on blast of bulkers .
But on cut I prefer adex because I have less aromatase and can use more as needed and dose easier than aromasin on cut!!!

Fellas I hope I help someone understand this is very simple but also hard to explain!!

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AWESOME STUFF DUDE .....love this forum ...so many experienced guys willing to share good advice ...
Serpico
I will never quit. My nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down i will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.”

 

[Muscle mechanic]

AWESOME STUFF DUDE .....love this forum ...so many experienced guys willing to share good advice ...
Serpico
I will never quit. My nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down i will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.”

U would be surprised.
I looked in alot of places and found alot of wrong information on the difference between rebound vs suicide inhibitor!!

Well I dug deep and really deep and got the facts from mechanisms of action of the drugs and significant meaning if rebound in breast cancer studies and letro and adex!!

Be grateful the right info right here at hardcore!! Be careful what u read....

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[horsefli]

Good read fellas! Thanks for information, I think Masteron/Tren is a new favorite for me. Man Im not Ricnixon lean at all but Ive started seeing starnds in my shoulders ive neer seen on mast!

 

[Quix99]

U would be surprised.
I looked in alot of places and found alot of wrong information on the difference between rebound vs suicide inhibitor!!

Well I dug deep and really deep and got the facts from mechanisms of action of the drugs and significant meaning if rebound in breast cancer studies and letro and adex!!

Be grateful the right info right here at hardcore!! Be careful what u read....

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Thanks for this info man. I NEVER had gyno issues, had labs done with trt, and 750mg a week and e2 was aleays good. When i forst joined here, i used some of dred’s cyp and eq..no issues. Added winny and bam the nips hurt. Came off, added alot of adex and was fine like a month later but felt like dick. So i decided on poppin some anadrol to kickstart the next cycle and same shit..dht based gear messes with me and gives me gyno symptoms that adex just cant contol. I literally just grabbed some nolva and aromasin to see how that helps. Thanks for that great nfo bro