1st cycle

[Ricknasty]

Going to run my first cycle of only test cyp. Nolvedex for pct my queston though is is hcg a a must during cycle ? Say if only say 300ml per week?

 

[Argon Coagulator]

Probably not necessary for only 300mg of test for 8-10 weeks but it wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[xxplosive]

I would run proviron/Masteron alongside it... Seriously no point in NOT lowering your SHBG and not risking bloat or gyno.

Idk who decided it was a mortal sin to use anything beyond test for your first cycle... And why nobody preaches the benefits of keeping estro in check.

 

[joonp]

Going to run my first cycle of only test cyp. Nolvedex for pct my queston though is is hcg a a must during cycle ? Say if only say 300ml per week?

Whats ur ai? Gotta keep ur estro in check or your gains get reduced and you may end up with tits. Also get precycle bloods so you have a reference point for post pct and oncycle bloods around week 7

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[1977_Corvette]

If your gonna use hcg use for pct a few weeks after last pin, not during cycle that's a useless broscience fad. How much test are you going to use and for how long?

 

[Ricknasty]

Originally i was going to do 500 per week but wondering if 300 would be better for lower sides. 10 week cycle with nolvedex pct

 

[Ricknasty]

I was just wondering if the kcg was necessary to run with the teat only in adition to pct

 

[Hevi-head]

Originally i was going to do 500 per week but wondering if 300 would be better for lower sides. 10 week cycle with nolvedex pct

500 for 12 weeks. 10 is just a little short for long esters IMO. More then likely sides won’t be bad at all but everyone is different. Just keep an AI on hand in case you need it.

 

[Argon Coagulator]

If your gonna use hcg use for pct a few weeks after last pin, not during cycle that's a useless broscience fad. How much test are you going to use and for how long?

Actually it's the other way around. Using it on cycle is recommended by physicians and they say that blasting high doses at the end of a cycle isn't a long enough exposure to HCG to be effective. You need to be on it atleast 6 weeks before you end a cycle.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Im a bit weird after 25 years of running EVERYTHING. Nowadays? Its just Test and TBol for me and if Im feelin crazy a lil M1T. If you arent on stage these will get u where u want to be. JMO


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[ketsugo]

First cycle test only will be fine . Don’t allow anyone to convince you to add any further compounds . Though you do need novaldex or some AI. Now instead of asking people if you should start at 300mg instead of 500. Remember it’s your body and you and only you can answer . With anything you use the least amount needed to progress . If your a newbie then keep a journal start at 300 for few see how you feel after 3-4 weeks . Did you feel stronger? Energetic? Motivation? More hungry ? Only you can answer. Definitely in my 40 year of experience do not start on proviron or masteron first cycle . Waste of words even writing . You got the right ideas. Just execute your plan , post up even as journal then vets will chime in. My advice though to all . You are your only teacher . Experience is your guide . Share with bros here but always know you are your own

 

[Ricknasty]

First cycle test only will be fine . Don’t allow anyone to convince you to add any further compounds . Though you do need novaldex or some AI. Now instead of asking people if you should start at 300mg instead of 500. Remember it’s your body and you and only you can answer . With anything you use the least amount needed to progress . If your a newbie then keep a journal start at 300 for few see how you feel after 3-4 weeks . Did you feel stronger? Energetic? Motivation? More hungry ? Only you can answer. Definitely in my 40 year of experience do not start on proviron or masteron first cycle . Waste of words even writing . You got the right ideas. Just execute your plan , post up even as journal then vets will chime in. My advice though to all . You are your only teacher . Experience is your guide . Share with bros here but always know you are your own

Thanks makes perfect sense

 

[Icedawg]

First cycle test only will be fine . Don’t allow anyone to convince you to add any further compounds . Though you do need novaldex or some AI. Now instead of asking people if you should start at 300mg instead of 500. Remember it’s your body and you and only you can answer . With anything you use the least amount needed to progress . If your a newbie then keep a journal start at 300 for few see how you feel after 3-4 weeks . Did you feel stronger? Energetic? Motivation? More hungry ? Only you can answer. Definitely in my 40 year of experience do not start on proviron or masteron first cycle . Waste of words even writing . You got the right ideas. Just execute your plan , post up even as journal then vets will chime in. My advice though to all . You are your only teacher . Experience is your guide . Share with bros here but always know you are your own

Great advice

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