Why Anadrol & Dbol Should Be Used Together

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The Strong Synergy Effect Of Anadrol & Dbol

By Gavin Kane

For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.

Anadrol (oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, Anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed Anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex .

Dianabol (methandrostenolone ) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. Dianabol has been one of the most popular oral steroids of all time, exploding in popularity in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.
Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. Gyno will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with Anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, Anadrol vs. Dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of Anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take Dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking Dianabol and drop the Anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from Dianabol, which I do not experience from Anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from Anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

Anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. Dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as Anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with Anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with Dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. Dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my Dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my Anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca -durabolin .

I would run my Anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my Dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of Anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.

NOTE: This article was written by a highly respected member over at professional muscle that goes by the handle "almost pro". He was a top amateur competitor and knows his shit, but all you newbs and even mid-level guys need to realize that those doses should not pertain to everyone, the doses listed in the article above are EXTREMELY high and should not be messed with by probably 99% of this board. Keep it moderate, the whole point of the article is the synergistic effects of these two VERY POWERFUL orals. Not the doses....
 
What are thoughts about combining the two in a preworkout injectable?

There is such a product, in fact the sponsor that produces it, is over at the board that this very "informative " read I'd from, { Thanks ' D-Red'} good read, I think I've seen this somewhere..! And, yes, the two do work nicely stacked in the same cycle.

The inj. I'm referring to has 30mg ea Dbol, and Drol, and 75 mg test base ( no Ester) I've made a similar with I think 25 MG each drol, n Dbol. However thru in additional test Ester's like test ace, n Decanoate I believe for s total
225 maybe 250 MG product.. Need to refer my notes to be certain.

But the item over @ Pro Muscle I'm referring to, had a lot
of followers / proponents somebody whom/ which may know what I'm talking about of they see this.

The stuff is "Fire"..., and is fine by itself, compared to mine is what I mean, mine just has more test. Per ml.

~ MCMM
 
good read .....what about test cyp @ 400 wkly / 375 deca wkly / ....prewo drol25/dbol25....... clomid , tudka , nac , gluthione inj ed
 
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Currently running test, npp, Dbol and drol... loving it


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Surely helped you get the gains you got now. Very interesting read indeed, and this combo may be the ticket for someone my age if I wanted to dabble in stuff like dbol/drol.
 
Surely helped you get the gains you got now. Very interesting read indeed, and this combo may be the ticket for someone my age if I wanted to dabble in stuff like dbol/drol.

Oddly enough lost some detail in my abs... lol a lot of detail, but I’m definitely liking it as far as gains.


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Nice article . Both my faves . However i want to emphasize what the article itself pointed out is that every one responds differently- extremely different . In my 20 yearsof using I find that I can make huge gains in doses of only 25 mg pwo if I use injectable versions . I experience no sides none and considering that I “ used “ to be dx with high BP and pokychema “ but later found on cycle only along with few so called supplements I now never use . My advice if anyone has followed my twenty years across community is I advice to know thyself . I hate the term “ broscience “ as makes me want to puke . But typically too many so called forum experts particularly certain forums ( not here thank fully) have too much politics and self aggrandized members . Respectfully I won’t name them because I stay here because we don’t have that shineola and all great members seem to gravitate here . Forgive me too much info but injectable anadrol or dianobol though same compound I usually find within days it makes significant impact on my power . Like suddenly my workout weights become too light to even warm up and I end up adding more 45 pound plates to most compound movements and I’m not talking low rep or max pounds like in press behind neck normally 225 for 8/12 all sudden do 25 reps without even thinking no effort crazy right ? My big move is wide chins with weight tied. When I discovered injectable anadrol I recalled using one of the 100 pound plates for 12 after years of stalemate. That’s UG injectable no pharmacy brand not even the years ago Mexican teforvit stuff which was Dbol inject way back . Injection can use lower dosage , guys report drier gains . Though I am big fan of both . I use pwo only and font use on my rest days . I used to have medical issues with high RBC likely combo of AAS and liver pills and too much red meat . All I can say is all my bloods and BP are totally normal . I donate blood every two months which helps , though the Red Cross tests you prior so I’m in parameters . Lower dosages gave up EQ and liver pills again that’s just me . We all walk our own path. Do not invest too much in others words . Read , hear but realize you are your only judge and teacher just you and it’s your body . Strive fir health as that is the foundation of progress . Diet , lifestyle genetics make you . Compounds merely enhance your journey . Use them wisely and they will yield optimal results . More is often not better . Strong mind strong body be strong enough to seek the best path for yourself
 
been doing this for years , i run dbol and drol , 50mg dbol and 100-150mg drol good shit 8-10 weeks its kick ass
 
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