TRT for women....

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Gents, a lot has been discussed about this and now Im going to pull the trigger and see how she does. Ill be adding 20 mg a week of test cyp to guage how that works for my wifes libido and general wellness feeling. She will also be doing a 6 week run of 50mg Primo E and 12.5 Var. We will be monitoring CLOSELY for any masculinity traits but dont see an issue there. She may add 250mg DNP daily as well for 2-4 weeks depending on how it runs. She hates carbs so those will be pre and post only with a concentration on protein / quality fats and up to 2 gallons of water a day. Thoughts?


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[viperspike]

Try to use Pharma Test Cyp if that is the Test you will be using as it is dosed at 200mg/ml and not 250. A normal TRT dose for females seems to be around 12.5mg of test which accounting for losses in the syringe seems to make it about 7-8 units on an insulin needle or .07ml. With the half life of Cyp being around 7 to 8 days, it will take approx 7 weeks to reach stable levels in her blood. If she if looking to go the TRT route, I would suggest getting a good base level achieved with a minimum of 8 weeks of a TRT regimen before adding in other compounds . As an example, Primo will raise free test significantly due to its competition with SHBG; this in turn will allow her to have a lower total test number, but a much higher free test number. The free test will be the one to cause side effects. Stay safe, add one compound at a time. A TRT dose of test will have a big impact on her goals without even adding other compounds; try it first.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Try to use Pharma Test Cyp if that is the Test you will be using as it is dosed at 200mg/ml and not 250. A normal TRT dose for females seems to be around 12.5mg of test which accounting for losses in the syringe seems to make it about 7-8 units on an insulin needle or .07ml. With the half life of Cyp being around 7 to 8 days, it will take approx 7 weeks to reach stable levels in her blood. If she if looking to go the TRT route, I would suggest getting a good base level achieved with a minimum of 8 weeks of a TRT regimen before adding in other compounds . As an example, Primo will raise free test significantly due to its competition with SHBG; this in turn will allow her to have a lower total test number, but a much higher free test number. The free test will be the one to cause side effects. Stay safe, add one compound at a time. A TRT dose of test will have a big impact on her goals without even adding other compounds; try it first.

Youre right Viper and thanks for grounding me a bit on this. I forget that Ive been in this game for nearly 3 decades some times and apply current status to others goals. She has one run under her belt (Var) which we werent impressed with. We know the source well so it wasnt that. Ill def be using pharma for her since the cost is so cheap with how much she will be using. Im use to sprinting in at this stage and forgot she still needs to walk a bit. Thanks Brother! Good lookin out!!


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[01dragonslayer]

Heres a couple good reads......

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2004/4/report_test/page-01

https://forevher.healthywomen.org/treatment/the-reality-behind-testosterone-therapy/

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/androgen-therapy-in-women

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Heres a couple good reads......

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2004/4/report_test/page-01

https://forevher.healthywomen.org/treatment/the-reality-behind-testosterone-therapy/

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/androgen-therapy-in-women

Thanks brother!


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[Kins]

She hates carbs though?. Who hates carbs?. I don't like they way they make me a fat ass, but I love me some carbs!. I was reading about this a few weeks back, a lot of the ladies that are on trt also add some estrogen to there routine. Not sure on the specifics of that though. That was a medical article. Also on here, there was a thread about this and one guy was recommending only short esters. Not sure on that, but there is a thread on here about it somewhere.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

She hates carbs though?. Who hates carbs?. I don't like they way they make me a fat ass, but I love me some carbs!. I was reading about this a few weeks back, a lot of the ladies that are on trt also add some estrogen to there routine. Not sure on the specifics of that though. That was a medical article. Also on here, there was a thread about this and one guy was recommending only short esters. Not sure on that, but there is a thread on here about it somewhere.

Ya no shit man! She hates them all. Ice cream, breads, candy u name it. She cant eat it and hates it. Pisses me off cause I crave the shit. She may be a freaking alien. If I disappear call NASA to get my ass back. Im actually going to have her do her first run at 100mg primo p/wk. after her cycle ill start her TRT.


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[viperspike]

The feedback loops and HPTA of males compared to females is a little different; the ovaries and adrenal glands produce the testosterone in the female system. What I have noticed with a few females is the fact that the first two weeks on a Var or Primo cycle go great, then it starts to loose efficacy. In my opinion, the female body is much more responsive to overall androgens (anabolic and androgenic), and shuts down testosterone production quite quickly as a response. In the first few weeks, natural testosterone production is still going and they add in Var or Primo which ups the levels of total and especially free androgens which produces great results, only to be minimized by the shutdown of testosterone from week 3 on.

I think that females wishing to do a cycle of Var or Primo would best benefit from stacking a longer ester testosterone compound, albeit at a female TRT level dosage. The problem with a testosterone cyp dosage for females is getting a correctly measured 12mg or so a week. This 12mg is the equivalent of about 7-8 units on a 1ml syringe, using 200mg/ml pharmacy test. I would strongly recommend against using any UGL test as it is less controlled in the actual dosage per ml (just think if it were dosed too high). With a dosage of 12mg a week, it should put most females right in the middle of the of the 20-80ng/dl range (im guessing somewhere about 50ng/dl. I have not had any of the three females on this dosage do bloodwork (due to insurance reasons) but instead have closely monitored for any side effects. None were reported so far with only one female reporting she had a little bit more oily scalp. Two of the three females have run cycles of Var, Primo, EQ, and NPP and even Tren before and state that they feel more energy and see better reduction in fatloss on the 12mg of Test Cyp a week than they did running shorter cycles of the other compounds. Note, that this 12mg TRT dosage is something that the females have been running for months, compared to the normal 8-12week cycles with the other compounds. This stable, steady state testosterone in their blood does the same thing for them as it does for us males, favors lean muscle mass and lower body fat percentages.

My next goal with two of the females is to see if a steady testosterone level helps them use even less anabolics to achieve the same or better results than their previous cycles.

One female was running 10mg of Ostarine a day, 12.5mg of Var a Day and 75mg of Primo E a week. All was good until week 9 when a few sides started and Primo was discontinued. Her endurance and muscle pump was ridiculous though before ceasing the cycle.

The other female has had previous bad advice running NPP, EQ and even Tren at dosages that made me ask her WTF she was doing. In all she was doing around 50-75% of a moderate male dose with those compounds but only for four weeks. This short cycle I believe is the only thing that saved her from any permanent sides.

Based on the above info:
Start your girl on 12mg of Test Cyp a week. Once she achieves stable blood levels at about 8 weeks or so, then you could add in other compounds. Keep in mind most females want to essentially recomp, which in my opinion favors Primo. Primo E has a long half life of about 8 days and once again reaches steady state blood levels in about 8 weeks. Compared to the 9hr half life of Var, Primo should essentially help with more of a recomp due to it being active and in the blood for "more" hours in the day, its excellent nitrogen retention and low overall androgenic rating. I am very conservative in my dosing, esp with females and would not recommend going over 75mg ever. With Var, I would not recommend going over 12.5mg a day. These dosages may be greatly reduced if the female is on a TRT dose of Test!!

Use this website to figure out compounds, their half lifes and the total amount your have in your blood at any given time

https://roidcalc.powerbody.ru/?langid=8

 

[Kins]

Ya no shit man! She hates them all. Ice cream, breads, candy u name it. She cant eat it and hates it. Pisses me off cause I crave the shit. She may be a freaking alien. If I disappear call NASA to get my ass back. Im actually going to have her do her first run at 100mg primo p/wk. after her cycle ill start her TRT.


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That's just really strange. Never heard of anyone like that.

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

That's just really strange. Never heard of anyone like that.

Me either. She says her saliva gets thick from carbs and leaves a nasty taste in her mouth. Wish I could market whatever it is that causes that.


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[Kins]

Me either. She says her saliva gets thick from carbs and leaves a nasty taste in her mouth. Wish I could market whatever it is that causes that.


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Has she ever investigated it further with a doctor?

 

[OHBRUTUSIO]

Has she ever investigated it further with a doctor?

Ya. She even had one of those screenings done that are a few hundo. Best she can describe it as if youve ever eaten a ton of candy and your mouth feels that gross kinda thick saliva dry taste. No one knows why she cant stand them. They all attribute it to mentally just not liking simple carbs mainly. She can however chew dry oatmeal and eat weirdass breads that I feel taste like sandpaper. To her they taste "sweet"....lol


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[GarlicChicken]

My fiancee runs 10mg of cyp split into two doses weekly. We found that with properly dosed test 20 was way too much for her and caused too many unwanted sides like body hair growth, too much clitoral swelling, etc. 10 seems to be her sweet spot along with .25mg estradiol daily. She hates estrogen though so she stays really low on that (she's obviously had a hysterectomy). I would personally start with 10 and work up if desired, especially since she's going to be running other gear.

Just keep an eye on the virilization and she'll be fine

 

[Blacktail]

Wife is starting lg 4033 today. Have read many good things about that for women. I'm hoping for an increase in sex drive!