Loss of strength

[chefbo50]

I came off gaspari novedex last month after a log for them. I had massive strength gains on it but as soon as I hit one week later lost it all . Could not push the weight I had been doing before. Could a test booster do this? I haven't had this happen even on a cycle before. Curious


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[Gymjunkie38]

Placebo effect

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[Nutpuncher]

you lost alll your strength that you gain within 1 week? I don't think that is posible unless you alll of a sudden got somesort of advanced muscle wasting disease. So placebo effect kinda makes sense but placebo effects your brain casuing you to beleive something that isn't real....but you'll be surprised what you can accomplish when you believe.

We would need to know MUCH more about your history in order to help, but I've been off gym for weeks upon weeks and got majority of my strength back within a week and I increased calories too. But I am not that strong to begin with so its easy for me to get back to my bench PR 137.5lbs.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

you lost alll your strength that you gain within 1 week? I don't think that is posible unless you alll of a sudden got somesort of advanced muscle wasting disease. So placebo effect kinda makes sense but placebo effects your brain casuing you to beleive something that isn't real....but you'll be surprised what you can accomplish when you believe.

We would need to know MUCH more about your history in order to help, but I've been off gym for weeks upon weeks and got majority of my strength back within a week and I increased calories too. But I am not that strong to begin with so its easy for me to get back to my bench PR 137.5lbs.

He took an OTC herbal test booster and saw anadrol like strength gains the lost them all a week later that's why I said placebo effect highly doubt anything hormonal from gaspari nutrition did anything more than cost him some money

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[chefbo50]

He took an OTC herbal test booster and saw anadrol like strength gains the lost them all a week later that's why I said placebo effect highly doubt anything hormonal from gaspari nutrition did anything more than cost him some money

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It was free so no lost to me. Just wondering. Thanks for the info though. ItI was more than a week more like 3. But I went down hugely. Maybe placebo that's what I'm trying to find out


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[Kins]

you lost alll your strength that you gain within 1 week? I don't think that is posible unless you alll of a sudden got somesort of advanced muscle wasting disease. So placebo effect kinda makes sense but placebo effects your brain casuing you to beleive something that isn't real....but you'll be surprised what you can accomplish when you believe.

We would need to know MUCH more about your history in order to help, but I've been off gym for weeks upon weeks and got majority of my strength back within a week and I increased calories too. But I am not that strong to begin with so its easy for me to get back to my bench PR 137.5lbs.

Come on nut, you have got to be stronger than that!. That can't be your 1RM. If so, than you really have balls of steel for posting that. Respect to you sir!

 

[Kins]

chefbo, you didn't gain massive amounts of strength from an OTC testosterone booster.

 

[hwntime]

He took an OTC herbal test booster and saw anadrol like strength gains the lost them all a week later that's why I said placebo effect highly doubt anything hormonal from gaspari nutrition did anything more than cost him some money

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But the guy from GNC told me I'd pack on slabs of muscle with their herbal test booster if I stacked it with Muscletech products?! LOL

 

[Gymjunkie38]

Actualy gaspari put out the first halodrol product didn't they back in the day that didn't last long though they would never be associated with designer steroids and Prohormones now

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[Gymjunkie38]

Good ole days walk into a supp shop and grab some superdrol or M1T

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[chefbo50]

chefbo, you didn't gain massive amounts of strength from an OTC testosterone booster.

Brother I'm just saying I did more weight than I had been working out with before. That's it. I didn't post this shit to get shit . I'm just saying what happened. I've been on deca and teen cycles and have never handled this increase before. I was just asking a fuckin question not wanting to get a bunch of crap. It may be obvious to you but it isn't to me, ok! Here the main reason I don't do boards anymore, you ask a simple question and all the experts come out and bash you.


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[Kins]

Brother I'm just saying I did more weight than I had been working out with before. That's it. I didn't post this shit to get shit . I'm just saying what happened. I've been on deca and teen cycles and have never handled this increase before. I was just asking a fuckin question not wanting to get a bunch of crap. It may be obvious to you but it isn't to me, ok! Here the main reason I don't do boards anymore, you ask a simple question and all the experts come out and bash you.


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I'm far from an expert and I'm not bashing you. Maybe you did gain strength but it wasn't from an OTC supplement.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

All were saying bro is the best you will get OTC is maybe DAA and arimistane combo with ZMA and if you have low levels it will put you in the upper normal range around 900 if your lucky . a begginer run of just testosterone 500 mg a week of half decent gear will have you sitting at 3000ng its not even comparable . if you have low T it may help your libido but it won't get you anywhere near a heightened anabolic state not even close

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[The Beef]

Anybody remember 1-AD? Now that shit would blow you up. I can't remember what it was but when tested it did have something in it.

 

[Kins]

Anybody remember 1-AD? Now that shit would blow you up. I can't remember what it was but when tested it did have something in it.

1AD, by Patrick Arnold?. That was the prohormone to 1 Test, so yeah it worked and worked well.

 

[The Beef]

That's the one brother. Was he associated with Vic Conte?

 

[Alan0160]

I never used 1-AD but from what I read, it was a prohormone back in the early 2000's that required one enzymatic step in the body to convert to 1-testosterone which would explain why it worked so well. I remember trying a
product from Pinnacle called Androstat Cyclo Poppers during that time. It was a mixture of different prohormones in a cyclodextrin matrix for sublingual use to by-pass the digestive tract. At the time, I thought, wow, an OTC
product that really works. I looked up the ingredients of that Novedex XT from Gaspari. It looks like some form of prohormone so I'm wondering how they are getting around the ban

 

[hwntime]

I never used 1-AD but from what I read, it was a prohormone back in the early 2000's that required one enzymatic step in the body to convert to 1-testosterone which would explain why it worked so well. I remember trying a
product from Pinnacle called Androstat Cyclo Poppers during that time. It was a mixture of different prohormones in a cyclodextrin matrix for sublingual use to by-pass the digestive tract. At the time, I thought, wow, an OTC
product that really works. I looked up the ingredients of that Novedex XT from Gaspari. It looks like some form of prohormone so I'm wondering how they are getting around the ban

LOL I remember those poppers! They really did work too! I'd actually chew them up and let them sit under my tongue pre workout.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Come on nut, you have got to be stronger than that!. That can't be your 1RM. If so, than you really have balls of steel for posting that. Respect to you sir!

good catch....I forgot that I omitted that is 1 arm PR on smith machine. Thanks for keeping me honest brother!!

 

[Kins]

good catch....I forgot that I omitted that is 1 arm PR on smith machine. Thanks for keeping me honest brother!!

I think you might be joking here but I'm not sure.