Lipoden

[Big Tex]

My wife is going to one of these weight loss clinics and besides Phentermine she also goes in once a week to get an injection of 1-Lipoden. Naturally I looked into what this was to try to duplicate it and it was simple. 1-Lipoden is 100mg of Myoden (AMP-5) and 500mcg of B-12 The B-12 is involved with the release and oxidation of fatty acids and the Myoden is simply adenosine monophosphate.

The combination is said to:

• Cleanse and protect the liver
• Aid in increasing learn tissue
• Increase the resting metabolism
• Increase fat oxidation
• Vasodilator
• Cognitive enhancer
• Increase energy levels
• Reduce appetite
• Help convert carbohydrates to energy
• Improve blood and oxygen flow

As you can see by the figure below AMP is very important in the energy cycle. AMP is combined with P to form ADP to form ATP and combined with creatine to produce the chemical energy needed for cellular functions and work. This is very important to powerlifters and bodybuilders, because we predominantly use the ATP/Pc or the anaerobic energy system when we train.

As you can see from the figure below AMP is use in a lot of process in the human body that seem to be very useful for bodybuilders. This can be especially helpful with the addition of creatine monohydrate supplements.

Since it is a vasodilator, you will see some great vascularity when you train, as well as opening up those blood vessels so blood and nutrients will be shuttled into the working muscle, thus giving a better pump and kick starting the hypertrophy process.

AMP is also use in race horses, greyhounds etc, for many of the same reason. I have given it a try for the past 9 months and did notice quite a difference in the pumps, and fat burning effect.

 

[biggc1]

Nice post! Did you also dose once a week?

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[Big Tex]

Biggc1, I was using a product that was 40mg/ml and I actually dosed that maybe 30 minutes before I trained. So it ended up being about 200mg/.wk. I now have some AMP that is 200mg/ml I so I am going to try 100mg right before training and maybe 2 more injections spread out during the week for a total of 300mg/wk. My wife is going the 100mg/wk and has already lost 4lbs in less than a week. She is taking the phentermine and I am not. My goal is specifically the vasodialation and the pump during training. If the 100mg is too much I will drop back down to 1/2 the dose.

I jsut notice that there is a popular BB company selling their on version dose at 40mg/ml. They make this claim:

This is it! The ultimate ‘pro competitive secret’! This product is the most powerful vasodilator currently available in bodybuilding.

A competitive bodybuilder can achieve extreme vascularity when using thisproduct one hour prior to stepping on stage. Within one hour of using this product as per USAGE, one will experience extreme hyperventilation, where oxygen will get sucked up into the blood stream, increasing vascularity (surface veins) to an extreme level, achieving the ‘Road Map’ look highly desired in bodybuilding competitions.

It is suggested this should be used deep IM but Basskiller has posted some information suggestion it can also be used sublingually:

By sublingual absorption (under the tongue): 30mg to 90mg per day taken in three divided doses (i.e. 10-30mg three times per day). It is important to ensure that the product is absorbed through the mouth membranes and not swallowed.

 

[biggc1]

Definitely sounds interesting. Did you use it with the b12 as well? I've ordered from racehorse meds before, might have to check theirs out!

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[Kins]

Within one hour of using this product as per USAGE, one will experience extreme hyperventilation.

Yeah, no thanks!

 

[Big Tex]

Kins, never have experienced this. I know lots of people who have used it and never had this experience either. Even the weight loss clinic my wife goes to say they have never had a patient experience this type of side effect as I ask about it last week. The only time this might happen is with IV injections, not IM or sublingual. Like I said, I used the 40mg stuff every day for a little over 9 months and never experienced any kind of hyperventilation. I did notice flushing of the upper chest and my wife says she is sweating more. The guy who are claiming hyperventilation are also injecting 10ml of AMP at a time so that is 400mg there is absolutely no reason to use that much.

Definitely sounds interesting. Did you use it with the b12 as well? I've ordered from racehorse meds before, might have to check theirs out!

That is exactly where I got the 200mg/ml stuff. I also got their B-12. My wife uses it with B-12. I just use the AMP by it self but do weekly injections of B-12 at 5000mcg.

 

[SoonerClint72]

Very interesting Big Tex...thanks for posting brother.

Sooner

 

[biggc1]

That is exactly where I got the 200mg/ml stuff. I also got their B-12. My wife uses it with B-12. I just use the AMP by it self but do weekly injections of B-12 at 5000mcg.

30% off site wide at racehorse until midnight!

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[Big Tex]

Great buy biggc1. These people have good communication and great turn around time. It was a pleasure doing business with them

My wife and I have been using 100mg with 500mg of B-12 about 30 minutes before training. I have definitely noticed that my recovery time between sets is much better. Evenrgy level at the end of training are higher. I always time my rest periods for 2 minutes. It 1 minute now I feel ready to go again. My wife is sayiing the same thing. I am seeing some vascularity that I have not seen at my current bodyweight and we are both sweating a lot, even at home doing nothing. So I am seeing that this stuff most likely increases recovery and prides more energy substrates in exercise. It also seems to increase basal metabolism.. We train Mon-Friday and take Saturday and Sunday off so we are both using this stuff 5 days a week.

I also got the pentosan gold which is Sodium pentosan polysulfate 250 mg/ml, glucosamine 150mg/ml, works as an anti-inflammatory and stimulant of cartilage synthesis, repair and protection. I have a pain in the knee joint, most likely the miniscus, that has really been hurting. I am usingthis product once a week to help get rid of the pain. After the 2nd injection it is about 50% better.

 

[biggc1]

Great buy biggc1. These people have good communication and great turn around time. It was a pleasure doing business with them

My wife and I have been using 100mg with 500mg of B-12 about 30 minutes before training. I have definitely noticed that my recovery time between sets is much better. Evenrgy level at the end of training are higher. I always time my rest periods for 2 minutes. It 1 minute now I feel ready to go again. My wife is sayiing the same thing. I am seeing some vascularity that I have not seen at my current bodyweight and we are both sweating a lot, even at home doing nothing. So I am seeing that this stuff most likely increases recovery and prides more energy substrates in exercise. It also seems to increase basal metabolism.. We train Mon-Friday and take Saturday and Sunday off so we are both using this stuff 5 days a week.

I also got the pentosan gold which is Sodium pentosan polysulfate 250 mg/ml, glucosamine 150mg/ml, works as an anti-inflammatory and stimulant of cartilage synthesis, repair and protection. I have a pain in the knee joint, most likely the miniscus, that has really been hurting. I am usingthis product once a week to help get rid of the pain. After the 2nd injection it is about 50% better.

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