Fat Burners vs Clen & T3

[dutchpharma]

Most of us have had the pleasure of getting to know the pain and misery of making nice with Clen. Personally ive not used T3 but what I am interested in is over the counter fat burners. I recall prior to ephedra being outlawed that a product I used then (Labrada Charge) would have me sweating thru my clothes while doing absolutely nothing but sitting. I recall the jitters and headaches being just as bad as any case ive dealt with whie using Clen. What about you guys? Have you had any success with any supps that can work as good or perhaps better than Clen or T3?

 

[hwntime]

ECA and DNP. Forget supplements as they pale in comparison.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

OTC sucks all snake oil placebos the only weight loss they cause is from your wallet getting lighter

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[Gymjunkie38]

Best legal fat burner is in the pharmacies ( bronkaid 25mg ephedrine ) just show ID and ask for it 12 bucks for 60 tablets . most effective legally also the cheapest

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[exiztenze]

Best legal fat burner is in the pharmacies ( bronkaid 25mg ephedrine ) just show ID and ask for it 12 bucks for 60 tablets . most effective legally also the cheapest

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[Zoobster]

Clen or Bronkaid? Which one would you take. ?


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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Best legal fat burner is in the pharmacies ( bronkaid 25mg ephedrine ) just show ID and ask for it 12 bucks for 60 tablets . most effective legally also the cheapest

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Even better if stacked with caffiene & aspirin (baby aspirin ) and some grapefruit juice, or rind & pulp.

ECA - narangin stack, incredible Energy, and opens the airways & sinuses if have allergies.

But nothing wrong with clen if dosed right, as it is also an "Anti-Catabolic.

 

[Zoobster]

Even better if stacked with caffiene & aspirin (baby aspirin ) and some grapefruit juice, or rind & pulp.

ECA - narangin stack, incredible Energy, and opens the airways & sinuses if have allergies.

But nothing wrong with clen if dosed right, as it is also an "Anti-Catabolic.

So you could take excedrin and bronkaid.
I was taking clen didn’t see much fat loss. Maybe I wasn’t dosing it high enough.


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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

So you could take excedrin and bronkaid.
I was taking clen didn’t see much fat loss. Maybe I wasn’t dosing it high enough.


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Is excedrin aspirin..? If so, probably full strength adult.

I just use chewable cherry, or orange baby aspirin 81mg I think.. coffee, ( reasonable strong ) but the caffeine tabs are fine too, grapefruit juice { notabely , the ones in small cans BlueBird I believe , have higher narangin content }

Narangin just amplifies the effect., A d is cautioned on alot
Of meds to avoid. Because of this,like blood pressure lowering meds, etc .

But reg fresh grapefruit with some pulp does wonders.

It's sorta "oldschool" nothing new..!

 

[Kins]

Excedrin is acetaminophen, so no to that.

 

[ladykilla]

I also vote for the ECA stack. Nothing else over the counter comes close, and it has been a go to for so many over the years. Also, you start to become desensitized to clen, so you can only take it for around 2 weeks at a time. That might be your problem. Try clen for two weeks followed by ECA stack 2 weeks, then back on the clen and see how that works out for you.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I also vote for the ECA stack. Nothing else over the counter comes close, and it has been a go to for so many over the years. Also, you start to become desensitized to clen, so you can only take it for around 2 weeks at a time. That might be your problem. Try clen for two weeks followed by ECA stack 2 weeks, then back on the clen and see how that works out for you.

Precisely, 2 on, 2 off, or do the switch, as you described.

Only other thing to offset the desensitization to clen, is Ketofin, or Benadryl can work as well.

I always used to rotate, bi-weekly, but then again the Ephedrine stack I gad is no longer available Nor -Ephedra , forgot the name exactly, but was by Mass Quantities.

Still have two, or 3 unopened bottles, and use it very very sparingly. Good shit.

 

[Zoobster]

Fat Burners vs Clen & T3

Pretty sure it’s aspirin and caffeine. But also has Tylenol.


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[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

Most of us have had the pleasure of getting to know the pain and misery of making nice with Clen. Personally ive not used T3 but what I am interested in is over the counter fat burners. I recall prior to ephedra being outlawed that a product I used then (Labrada Charge) would have me sweating thru my clothes while doing absolutely nothing but sitting. I recall the jitters and headaches being just as bad as any case ive dealt with whie using Clen. What about you guys? Have you had any success with any supps that can work as good or perhaps better than Clen or T3?

Ya know, in the few replies I put here, I actually failed to read the OP original post, of yours DP rep, but now reading it I see your looking for OTC, there are a handful that come to mind actually, but still what I did mention, is available freely OTC I suppose , except for the Ehpedra.. ( or is it available again...? ) I'm out of the loop there.

But, the same company that makes Mesomorph, has one called Hydroxy-Elite, and it is smooth, (at least to me..! , I'm a coffee-holic) it is supposed to have DMAA but they have been in litigation & still not budging in removing it from their ingredients​.

Quite a few other too Lipodrene (same company ) with, it with out Ephedrine /Ephedra..!

They can. All be viewed at Suppz dot com, and /or A1- Nutrition, or A1-Supplement dot com , one or the other, in sure a Google will turn up good results.

*** Also, BESTPRICENUTRITION ,has all these & then some, just for reference, to compare, or see the ingredients panel.

But they all seem promising, however almive tried / and have are the Mesomorph , HydroxyElite, and reg DMAA caps by Dyel.

Love the energy, clean & no crash.

MotorCity

 

[Ironman404]

Excedrin is acetaminophen, so no to that.

Excedrin is acetaminophen, aspirin and caffeine.

 

[Kins]

Excedrin is acetaminophen, aspirin and caffeine.

Yep.

 

[Thehogstwrs]

I'm a non responder to T3 and T4. Never did shit for me. Clen is good but the cramping can get unbearable. DMAA made me sweat like a stuffed big and even more hungry so no weight loss really. As for OCT I like Alphamine and Oxy ECA black. End of the day I found very little difference as far as weight loss. It's almost all diet and your mindset to eat right. Owe or you can just take tren and est like shit and still burn it off, lol

 

[Zoobster]

I'm a non responder to T3 and T4. Never did shit for me. Clen is good but the cramping can get unbearable. DMAA made me sweat like a stuffed big and even more hungry so no weight loss really. As for OCT I like Alphamine and Oxy ECA black. End of the day I found very little difference as far as weight loss. It's almost all diet and your mindset to eat right. Owe or you can just take tren and est like shit and still burn it off, lol

Teen is da shit!! Hehe!


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[OHBRUTUSIO]

Give this stuff a try. I didnt feel crap on ECA or even phentermine. This crap had me jacked up and sweatin like a virgin on prom night.

 

[Game_over]

Give this stuff a try. I didnt feel crap on ECA or even phentermine. This crap had me jacked up and sweatin like a virgin on prom night.

So I snagged a bottle of this after reading your post... I love Phen mind you.. haha holy shit you weren't lying.. I took 1 before work on am empty stomach and holy shit.. I could barely type..sweating..etc.. I want to try pre workout now bit gotta wait u til it's not so late at night