I’ve never taken anything outside of pre workout and protein, and I’m looking for something to help me shed some serious weight. I’m a fat kid, I’ve been steadily working out for the past few months, but I’m wanting something to shed mass weight off, any advice would help! Thanks!
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01dragonslayer
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Research will tell you my friend that anabolic hormones do not burn fat. Cardio, strength training and a vigorous cardio routine are by far your best option right now.
Welcome to the board. Tell us a little about yourself prior to us giving you advice.....age, weight, bf, strength routine, dietary habits and the like. We are all here to help ya out.
Welcome to the board. Tell us a little about yourself prior to us giving you advice.....age, weight, bf, strength routine, dietary habits and the like. We are all here to help ya out.
True , with out your daily habits diet etc it would be hard to really tell you what would work for you and what doesn't. But I would put another year in and then see where you at then . Besides burning fat and cutting down comes from diet and intense training first , i mean cardio and the whole nine yards there are agents out there that would aid in fat burning but they are not anabolic and you may not be ready for that just yet.
Roc
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Hard work will drop weight, don’t think a chemical will do this for you. Diet and exercise, gear isn’t your answer, never will be. Get on the tread mill and sweat it out everyday, get on a clean diet and then post up how much you lost. Gotta be willing to put the hard work in.
xxplosive
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I know you all mean well, but its not fair to assume every fat guy is lazy and eats terrible. Hormones play a HUGE role in metabolism/fat burning/fat storage, and some men are geneticially predisposed to higher estrogen levels.
There is no harm in this dude running something like:
Test Prop 75mg eod
Masteron P 100mg eod
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Winstrol 50mg ed
I guarantee that will greatly accelerate fat burning efforts by various pathways. One being More Lean Muscle = Higher Metabolism
That being said, notice I said ACCELERATE fat loss, meaning it will be a lost cause if you eat like shit and arent putting the right type of work in.
There is no harm in this dude running something like:
Test Prop 75mg eod
Masteron P 100mg eod
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Winstrol 50mg ed
I guarantee that will greatly accelerate fat burning efforts by various pathways. One being More Lean Muscle = Higher Metabolism
That being said, notice I said ACCELERATE fat loss, meaning it will be a lost cause if you eat like shit and arent putting the right type of work in.
yatyas314
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I help out quite a few people with nutrition and training and one thing I always tell folks that have a similar story. I ask them how long did it take you to put on this weight the excess weight. Its not unreasonable to expect a journey of at least half that to take it of in a methodical way that lets the skin shrink back up and avoid surgery or loose skin. I mean Yes its possible to go on a crash diet and use all kinds of drugs to melt off the fat but what do you do with the skin? or strength ? how much muscle can we build with all that fuel ? these are more realistic goals for you IMHO my friend. Good luck and I hope you find what you need here. There is a lot of knowledge here and good people that are willing to help.
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Yep, I'd even say that the journey may be just as long back instead of half. The faster it comes off the faster it goes back on. Always been fat? Your chances are not good of keeping it off.
I have to disagree with xxplosive here. Messing with your hormones will more than likely cause more problems. Xxplosive has probably never been fat for the majority of his life. Neither have I but several of my family members have been and several people I've helped have as well.
Want to lose weight fast without steroids? D-N-P. I don't recommend it but it really works.
But first I'd want to know how old the OP is, what they have tried as far as diet and exercise, etc.
Anything beyond natural means is what you do after you have done everything else. Fad diets don't work. It takes a whole lifestyle change.
xxplosive
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Never been fat? I was holding 267 lbs on a 5'10 frame 5 or 6 years...
Burning fat and recomping was a struggle until I got my estrogen under control.
Estrogen is a female hormone, and there is a direct correlation between estrogen, gaining fat, and storing more fat. It's why females carry more bf than males.
Testosterone does not make you fat, excess estrogen that comes from the aromatization of testosterone makes you fat.
Winstrol, Anavar, Masteron, Primo -- ALL DHT aas, and they are all cutters. Coincidence that all except maybe anavar have anti-estrogenic properties?
No, i didnt cut to my best with just estro control, took a year and half eating a lot less bs, but that shit helped A LOT.
i dont give advice I dont have exp and knowledge of.
I stand corrected.
Anabolic Reality
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No anabolic steroid " cuts you up". Diet "cuts you up". Some drugs don't aromatize as heavily keeping water weight down. Uhhhh...dnp will cut you up lol. But since we are fundamental please don't take this until you are a little more aware of what this all means to you.
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El Hereje
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Go full on Keto diet and shed that shit off if your goal is to be lean and mean. If you’ve only been working out for a few months your money is way better spent on a trainer and build a routine and learn. You can do things like clen, dnp, ECA that will help but if you don’t have dietary willpower you are wasting your time. Steroids will be a waste of money pure and simple at this point. But if you’re going to do it anyway then do some intense research and keep it very simple.
xxplosive
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Do you know what estrogen is?
What gender naturally produces more of it, and what are some of the physical differences between the 2 genders?
Is it coincidence that DHT drugs - which are generally anti estrogenic - winstrol, masteron, primo - are used as "cutting" and "competition prep" cycles?
If youre fat, chances are your estrogen levels are high. Have you ever tried losing large amounts of fat with high estrogen? If so, you either wasted months of your life or never had to go through it to begin with.
Nobody ever said "DHT/Anti E compounds alone without diet or cardio will cut you up". At least I never did.
To say that they wont help fat come off a lot faster in calorie deficit, with cardio, and to help preserve lean mass while in massive calorie deficit is just a lie.
Oh, and more LBM = Higher Metabolism - another indirect method of leaning out.
