Blasting 1g+ Test for 4 Weeks?

[xxplosive]

So I'm a "low test is best" guy, but after reading several scientific studies that AI's decrease igf1, test increases it, and high estro is also associated with high igf1... I am toying with the idea of blasting 1g of test for a month, and eating a crazy amount during that time, then coming back down.

Is it worth it to do for this short of period of time? Is that long enough to cause hyperplasia or is it better to do it for longer periods or not at all?

 

[Sharks1989]

So I'm a "low test is best" guy, but after reading several scientific studies that AI's decrease igf1, test increases it, and high estro is also associated with high igf1... I am toying with the idea of blasting 1g of test for a month, and eating a crazy amount during that time, then coming back down.

Is it worth it to do for this short of period of time? Is that long enough to cause hyperplasia or is it better to do it for longer periods or not at all?

100% not worth doing 4 weeks. I've done long test only cycles at 1250mgs for 6 months and longer. Best gains of my life! Don't use adex or aromasin it'll decrease igf1. I control the acne with Doxycycline. High test is great if it's long period. 4 weeks isn't enough brother. Run minimal 6 months. My bench went up 140lbs in 6 months

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[drollin]

100% not worth doing 4 weeks. I've done long test only cycles at 1250mgs for 6 months and longer. Best gains of my life! Don't use adex or aromasin it'll decrease igf1. I control the acne with Doxycycline. High test is great if it's long period. 4 weeks isn't enough brother. Run minimal 6 months. My bench went up 140lbs in 6 months

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dont use armidex or aromasin itll decrease igf1....you should prob start doing some research


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[drollin]

So I'm a "low test is best" guy, but after reading several scientific studies that AI's decrease igf1, test increases it, and high estro is also associated with high igf1... I am toying with the idea of blasting 1g of test for a month, and eating a crazy amount during that time, then coming back down.

Is it worth it to do for this short of period of time? Is that long enough to cause hyperplasia or is it better to do it for longer periods or not at all?

any effect AIs and SERMS have on igf1 are minimal at best, and if your thinking your going to grow from the igf increase from having high test and high estrogen that wont happen...the effects they have on igf1 are minimal as well and igf isnt gonna grow you like gear will, were not elite genetic pros.

if you really are trying to increase ur igf go shoot some gh or take mk677 but the amount ur igf has to be elevated to really see muscle growth is very high...

4 weeks is short once ur levels build up they will come back down


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[xxplosive]

any effect AIs and SERMS have on igf1 are minimal at best, and if your thinking your going to grow from the igf increase from having high test and high estrogen that wont happen...the effects they have on igf1 are minimal as well and igf isnt gonna grow you like gear will, were not elite genetic pros.

if you really are trying to increase ur igf go shoot some gh or take mk677 but the amount ur igf has to be elevated to really see muscle growth is very high...

4 weeks is short once ur levels build up they will come back down


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So you think it's pointless to run high test, period?

I'm leery of high test, 750mg/wk was the most I ran and i felt it was kind of a waste, made better gains without it... Some people swear by it and I thought it might be interesting to "embrace the bloat" if it can truly cause hyperplasia.

Pointless to run test that high you think?

I also don't wanna play the "gyno flare" game...

 

[Roc]

High test for 4 weeks will work if your doing test prop, suspension or test ace. I’m a high test guy and run high test for my 4 month bulk, I won’t say my number cause some people will fall over here. It does work, and at 1g things happen more. Now back to the 4 week thing, if your doing sus, enth, cyp is gonna be pointless since those esters don’t start to fire till 4 weeks, so stick with quick acting but remember, if your doing 1000 of sus, you only need 500 of suspension since your getting all 500. But you need to pin twice a day. Test ace and prop are good too, u can run them at 700 a week to gauge it since your getting more than the long esters, make sense??

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

***^^ just the sheer esterification of the long eats up some of the mg/ml as it's a hihger carbon # 10 I think , Cyp 8 carbon something as such.

Base = 100 % test 100 mg /ml brew, "your getting 100 mg "
Where as Cyp /Enanth 83/85 etc. << Just as reference.

Much more volume tho.. I'd like to "obligate' sometime to get Susp /maybe Anadrol or SD for a short stint / slin /GH

I love Suspension and have some very fine quality stuff ,& use it pre-W/o for the most part, bit have for a long time wanted to commit { and eventually I will } to the twice a day pokes 150-200 /day for a month as discussed above by Roc

I've a bit more liberty to do so now it's just preparedness
When not home , drive/work @ gym (many options of gyns too 3 close & one is in the basement , { that's where I'll.spend most of this winter, gym-> blender>> gym>>
Upstairs to shower (oven or , crockpot ) BLENDER again
While waiting... Lol.. I hate going out in the cold away to train , longer to warm up, freeze nuts off if sweaty (if shower there (away ) more time aggravation.

Just need to shuffle a few things around down there , & have at it.. & I can leave my shit loaded too..haha
.fuck unloading it all.., leave enuff on for warmup next session.

Planning on some size this Winter..

 

[Sharks1989]

So you think it's pointless to run high test, period?

I'm leery of high test, 750mg/wk was the most I ran and i felt it was kind of a waste, made better gains without it... Some people swear by it and I thought it might be interesting to "embrace the bloat" if it can truly cause hyperplasia.

Pointless to run test that high you think?

I also don't wanna play the "gyno flare" game...

Yes it's pointless to run it that high unless it's for several months just like Roc said! The other guy has no idea about adex or aromasin, not to be rude but he obviously hasn't tried high test and done any research on AI decreasing igf1....

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[drollin]

Yes it's pointless to run it that high unless it's for several months just like Roc said! The other guy has no idea about adex or aromasin, not to be rude but he obviously hasn't tried high test and done any research on AI decreasing igf1....

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show me a pub med study where aromasin and arimdex greatly decreases IGF1. What AI do you recommend then? None? High estrogen has negative effectives just as having single digit low estrogen. Even meadows says he uses tamoxifen which has shown lowered igf1 in the liver but says the numbers are so minimal its no difference. people get so hyped about about IGF and GH , were not genetic freaks with superior genetics that respond like freaks, go take 5 ius of chinese growth check ur igf1 and itll be elevated but i bet you you havent gained any muscle. and im on 1 g + of dline test right now.

Agree with Roc as well run it for longer, if your a seasoned user its not going to be night and day but 4 weeks will not work


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[Littleguy]

I feel it would be a waste of compound and your time, lower dose longer duration has worked for me in my life, been in this a VERY long time may have a pic or 2 on here if you look around.

 

[drollin]

So you think it's pointless to run high test, period?

I'm leery of high test, 750mg/wk was the most I ran and i felt it was kind of a waste, made better gains without it... Some people swear by it and I thought it might be interesting to "embrace the bloat" if it can truly cause hyperplasia.

Pointless to run test that high you think?

I also don't wanna play the "gyno flare" game...

imo once you got cycles under your belt you need to either push the doses higher, or take some good time off between cycles. FOOD AND TRAINING are always more important then the gear.

the bloat on 750 test is not going to be anything with a good AI and a good diet, if you aromatize easy buy some letro and use it as needed

arimdex kills cholesterol so aromasin is usually the better choice but depend on individuals


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[Argon Coagulator]

***^^ just the sheer esterification of the long eats up some of the mg/ml as it's a hihger carbon # 10 I think , Cyp 8 carbon something as such.

Base = 100 % test 100 mg /ml brew, "your getting 100 mg "
Where as Cyp /Enanth 83/85 etc. << Just as reference.

Much more volume tho.. I'd like to "obligate' sometime to get Susp /maybe Anadrol or SD for a short stint / slin /GH

I love Suspension and have some very fine quality stuff ,& use it pre-W/o for the most part, bit have for a long time wanted to commit { and eventually I will } to the twice a day pokes 150-200 /day for a month as discussed above .

I've a bit more liberty to do so now it's just preparedness
When not home , drive/work @ gym (many options of gyns too 3 close & one is in the basement , { that's where I'll.spend most of this winter, gym-> blender>> gym>>
Upstairs to shower (oven or , crockpot ) BLENDER again
While waiting... Lol.. I hate going out in the cold away to train , longer to warm up, freeze nuts off if sweaty (if shower there (away ) more time aggravation.

Just need to shuffle a few things around down there , & have at it.. & I can leave my shit loaded too..haha
.fuck unloading it all.., leave enuff on for warmup next session.

Planning on some size this Winter..

You look alot fuller in your current pic bro, so we know you aren't messing around when it comes to putting on size. At first I thought you were just a cut, lanky guy, but I was wrong- you're one of those taller guys who can become a monster.