3rd cycle advice

[Pinit2Winit]

Ok so I was thinking recently of doing GH but I think I’ll just stick with test.

My past cycles...

1st cycle: test cyp 500mg EW for 12 weeks I think it was
PCT : nolva I think I did 60/40/20/10

2nd cycle: I front loaded test prop 100mg EOD for the first four weeks with 750mg test cyp for 10weeks
PCT: nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 150/100/50/25 , and testforce2

Now I have a few questions. Being it’s my 3rd cycle should I keep it just test or should I start stacking with decca or dbol/tbol? Also I’ve heard mixed reviews about frontloading test should I frontload again or is there little effect?

 

[joonp]

Ok so I was thinking recently of doing GH but I think I’ll just stick with test.

My past cycles...

1st cycle: test cyp 500mg EW for 12 weeks I think it was
PCT : nolva I think I did 60/40/20/10

2nd cycle: I front loaded test prop 100mg EOD for the first four weeks with 750mg test cyp for 10weeks
PCT: nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 150/100/50/25 , and testforce2

Now I have a few questions. Being it’s my 3rd cycle should I keep it just test or should I start stacking with decca or dbol/tbol? Also I’ve heard mixed reviews about frontloading test should I frontload again or is there little effect?

First what are your goals. Next what are your stats. That will help a lot to give you advice. Personally i would not frontload. It doesn't make sense to me. I like to kick start with an oral like adrol. Then do at least 12 weeks of long ester test. 10 werks is too short. Next depending on ur goals i would add something else in. Im also a big fan of proper nutrition. You can do all the aas you want but without nutrition youre wasting ur time

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[Pinit2Winit]

First what are your goals. Next what are your stats. That will help a lot to give you advice. Personally i would not frontload. It doesn't make sense to me. I like to kick start with an oral like adrol. Then do at least 12 weeks of long ester test. 10 werks is too short. Next depending on ur goals i would add something else in. Im also a big fan of proper nutrition. You can do all the aas you want but without nutrition youre wasting ur time

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im 30 5’11 175lbs looking to gain more mass and strength. My diet isn’t on point at this second but I already know my macros to a tee. I had an injury and got hooked on pain meds so I’m finally clean now and getting my diet dialed back in. I’m also using ON serious mass right now but will mostlikly stop when I’m on my cycle until I PCT. I’m going to log all my food intake, macros, and workouts this time around. I will also post before and after photos. My goal really is to help another person with relatable stats and experience to occomplish a goal and a set path to dial into

 

[joonp]

Ok i dont like to bulk only to have to diet to lose fat. I prefer to keep it leaner so youre not taking 2 steps forward and one step back. Having said that everyone is different and everyone reacts differently. My advice is to run
Adrol 50 mg ed 1-5
Test e/c 500 mg a week 1-16
Eq 600 mg 1-16
Aromasin 12.5 eod adjust as needed

Hcg 1000 15-18
Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 50 50 25 25

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[Pinit2Winit]

Ok i dont like to bulk only to have to diet to lose fat. I prefer to keep it leaner so youre not taking 2 steps forward and one step back. Having said that everyone is different and everyone reacts differently. My advice is to run
Adrol 50 mg ed 1-5
Test e/c 500 mg a week 1-16
Eq 600 mg 1-16
Aromasin 12.5 eod adjust as needed

Hcg 1000 15-18
Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 50 50 25 25

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Thanks for the advice !

 

[Quix99]

Ok i dont like to bulk only to have to diet to lose fat. I prefer to keep it leaner so youre not taking 2 steps forward and one step back. Having said that everyone is different and everyone reacts differently. My advice is to run
Adrol 50 mg ed 1-5
Test e/c 500 mg a week 1-16
Eq 600 mg 1-16
Aromasin 12.5 eod adjust as needed

Hcg 1000 15-18
Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 50 50 25 25

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Thats a tried and true, very safe and effective cycle. At your weight man..eat like a mofo to see the bemefits. If you start gettin fluffy, just add some cardio

 

[xxplosive]

For MASS, do

Test Cyp - 500mg
EQ - 500mg
Deca - 600mg
Dbol or Adrol - 50mg/day

Eat 250-300g of protein a day, lift heavy, eat enough and you will blow the fuck up.

 

[Pinit2Winit]

For MASS, do

Test Cyp - 500mg
EQ - 500mg
Deca - 600mg
Dbol or Adrol - 50mg/day

Eat 250-300g of protein a day, lift heavy, eat enough and you will blow the fuck up.

now that’s a frikn cycle thanks bro! Most likely going with somthing like this

 

[HardBanger]

now that’s a frikn cycle thanks bro! Most likely going with somthing like this

That is a great cycle. My only advice is to not add 2 new compounds at the same time. If you have a side that you don’t like, it makes it harder to pin point the culprit.

Good luck bro

Respect, HB


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[xxplosive]

That is a great cycle. My only advice is to not add 2 new compounds at the same time. If you have a side that you don’t like, it makes it harder to pin point the culprit.

Good luck bro

Respect, HB


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I see what you mean, but all sides for each compound are well documented.

Sides:

EQ - Anxiety, high hematocrit, mild insomnia
Deca - Possible limp dick, bloat (progesterone), mild insomnia

Those are relatively mild compounds... Only thing i would change is to throw in some adex or aromasin to mitigate bloat.

 

[BiggerPenis73]

You do not have to increase the dosage every cycle. You have taken time off from the drugs, when you jump back on, your body is going to respond. I would stay with 750mg for at least a few weeks and see how you respond. Remember, you can always increase the dosage later on if you want to. But I would stick with 750mg and see how much you can get out of it before bumping up the dosage higher.

On the question of front-loading, for those of us who are impatient, it makes some sense. But in reality, even with a long ester like enanthate, the very first day you inject it you will already have around 400-500% of average testosterone levels, since IIRC a single injection of 250mg test E releases about 50mg into the blood stream on day one alone. So there actually isnt any need to frontload, as you will be getting benefits from day one. It may even be wiser to not front load, so that you can reap the benefits of the lower doseage for the first couple weeks as the amount of drug slowly builds up in your system. But remember, even from day one on test E, your test levels are already 5 times higher than the normal male.

 

[Pinit2Winit]

That is a great cycle. My only advice is to not add 2 new compounds at the same time. If you have a side that you don’t like, it makes it harder to pin point the culprit.

Good luck bro

Respect, HB


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thank you! And ya Im thinking ill just keep it simple I’ll just run test and decca and have something on hand for sides. I’ll do bloods obviously before during and after too.

 

[Legit]

Ok so I was thinking recently of doing GH but I think I’ll just stick with test.

My past cycles...

1st cycle: test cyp 500mg EW for 12 weeks I think it was
PCT : nolva I think I did 60/40/20/10

2nd cycle: I front loaded test prop 100mg EOD for the first four weeks with 750mg test cyp for 10weeks
PCT: nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 150/100/50/25 , and testforce2

Now I have a few questions. Being it’s my 3rd cycle should I keep it just test or should I start stacking with decca or dbol/tbol? Also I’ve heard mixed reviews about frontloading test should I frontload again or is there little effect?

Hey man,

For your third cycle, you’ve got some solid options. Whether you stick with just test or stack with Deca or Dbol/Tbol really depends on your goals and how you handled your past cycles.

Just Test​

Pros:

• Easier to manage side effects.
• If any issues pop up, it's easier to pinpoint the cause.
• Less strain on your body than multiple compounds.

Cons:

• Gains might be slower or less dramatic compared to stacking.

Adding Deca​

Pros:

• Works great with test for bigger muscle and strength gains.
• Deca is awesome for your joints, helps with heavy lifting.

Cons:

• Increased risk of side effects like Deca Dick, higher prolactin levels, and potential heart issues.
• You’ll need to keep a close eye on estrogen and prolactin.
• Longer detection time if you’re worried about drug tests.

Adding Dbol/Tbol​

Pros:

• Quick gains in muscle and strength with Dbol.
• Less water retention with Tbol compared to Dbol.
• Easy to take orally.

Cons:

• Dbol can cause bloating and water retention.
• Both can be hard on your liver.
• Higher risk of side effects like gynecomastia and high blood pressure.

Frontloading​

Frontloading means taking a higher dose at the start to get your blood levels up quickly.

Pros:

• Faster results.
• Can stabilize blood levels quicker.

Cons:

• Higher risk of side effects from the big initial dose.
• Some people don’t find it worth the risk.

My Take​

Cycle Design:

• Option 1: Stick with just test. Maybe bump up the dose a bit if you’re comfortable.
  • Example: Test Cypionate or Enanthate 500-750mg per week for 12 weeks.
• Option 2: Stack with Deca or Dbol/Tbol.
  • Example: Test Cyp 500mg/week + Deca 300-400mg/week for 12 weeks.
  • Example: Test Cyp 500mg/week + Dbol 30-40mg/day for the first 4-6 weeks.
  • Example: Test Cyp 500mg/week + Tbol 40-60mg/day for the first 6-8 weeks.

Frontloading:

• If you go this route, start with a conservative frontload dose.
  • Example: Test Cyp 750-1000mg in the first week, then 500mg/week after that.

PCT:

• Stick with a strong PCT like your second cycle.
  • Nolva 40/40/20/20
  • Clomid 150/100/50/25
  • Maybe add a natural test booster if you think it’ll help.

Monitoring:

• Use an AI like Arimidex or Aromasin to manage estrogen.
• If you’re using Deca, have something for prolactin like Cabergoline.
• Get regular blood work to keep an eye on your hormone levels, liver function, and overall health.

Hope this helps, bro!